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Re:Why Do We Tolerate Saudi Money in Tech? by dorkinspace on Friday November 08, 2019 @04:07PM (#21486774)
Why are we asking this question of the Saudis and not, say, the Chinese?

Over the past few months there have been many issues of companies taking actions that seem to be based on appeasing the Chinese government.

Both are awful government's actively committing crimes against humanity.

Re:Why Do We Tolerate Saudi Money in Tech? by thephyber on Friday November 08, 2019 @05:16PM (#21487473)
> and not, say, the Chinese?

Are you under the impression that the USA isn't already asking that question about the Chinese?

Examples:

  - Chinese "investors" getting access to Silicon Valley startups for "due diligence" before a theoretical investment
  - Forced IP transfer
  - Chinese-made networking equipment, drones, etc being banned
  - More scrutiny of Chinese university students
These might just be leverage in the current trade war, but I would argue they are multi-pronged flashpoints in a multi-front "war" between the previous superpower and a vying potential superpower.
Re:Why Do We Tolerate Saudi Money in Tech? by notsag-hn on Friday November 08, 2019 @05:47PM (#21487726)
What about the crimes against humanity commited by the US then? Should we ban US money as well? :D
Re:Why Do We Tolerate Saudi Money in Tech? by deogeo on Friday November 08, 2019 @05:56PM (#21487786)
While the parent poster presented the issue as one of morality, it's more honest to frame it as self-preservation. It's rarely wise to allow another country too much influence over you - even rarer when it's as openly hostile to the US as China.

Any wrongs you may have done don't enter into consideration when trying to prevent being wronged by others.

Re:Why Do We Tolerate Saudi Money in Tech? by tracker1 on Friday November 08, 2019 @07:08PM (#21488380)
I don't live in Saudi Arabia, or China, or Russia... I live in the USA. Not that I dismiss what the US has done, I'd say the scope and scale aren't quite the same a lot of the time.

In this case it's about preserving values from undue foreign influence. Preserving values from undue domestic influence is a bit easier inside the USA.

Re:Why Do We Tolerate Saudi Money in Tech? by imtringued on Friday November 08, 2019 @06:32PM (#21488067)
I'm thinking the same thing. China and Saudi Arabia might be awful but our own hands aren't clean either.
Re:Why Do We Tolerate Saudi Money in Tech? by dorkinspace on Friday November 08, 2019 @04:09PM (#21486795)
I misspoke. I do not know of any crimes against humanity that the Saudis are actively committing.
Re:Why Do We Tolerate Saudi Money in Tech? by wigl on Friday November 08, 2019 @04:19PM (#21486915)
Yemen is an easy example. [2] "As of October 2018, there have been more than 1.2 million cases reported, and more than 2,500 people—58% children—have died in the Yemen cholera outbreak, which is the worst epidemic in recorded history and was, according to the United Nations (UN), the worst humanitarian crisis in the world."

These numbers are also very conservative estimates, given the state of siege.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian-led_intervention...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016%E2%80%9319_Yemen_cholera_...

Re:Why Do We Tolerate Saudi Money in Tech? by dorkinspace on Friday November 08, 2019 @04:27PM (#21486995)
Wow. Thanks for sharing these links.
Re:Why Do We Tolerate Saudi Money in Tech? by hummel on Friday November 08, 2019 @04:50PM (#21487209)
Re:Why Do We Tolerate Saudi Money in Tech? by TheCoelacanth on Friday November 08, 2019 @05:17PM (#21487486)
Then you should get out more. Executing people for apostasy, blasphemy or witchcraft, torture, denying more or less all rights to women, turning a blind eye to extensive human trafficking, attempting genocide of Shia (not claiming they are conducting something like the Holocaust, this word covers a variety of actions). The list goes on and on.
Re:Why Do We Tolerate Saudi Money in Tech? by selimthegrim on Friday November 08, 2019 @05:50PM (#21487745)
Actually the mandatory death penalty for blasphemy award goes to PK. Gotta out Saudi the Saudis when you’re on the dole