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Re:Nuclear energy is a vital part of solving the climate crisis by ZeroGravitas on Friday November 08, 2019 @01:19PM (#21485081)
If I said I'd invented a new technology that would have less deaths per Terawatt than Nuclear, what would your first question be?

I'm going to guess it was "how much does it cost"?

Because we all instinctively know that human life is precious but not priceless. even if we're not familiar with the economic scoring that's done on new projects that might save or cost lives.

If nuclear costs so much that we could save more lives by spending that money on something else, then it's not a good deal. Different people might die, but overall less people will die.

I know nuclear fans are a bit emotional and don't like dealing with hard facts and figures. The thought of a single person dying is too much for them to cope with and they can't make logical decisions as a result, but think about it for a while and you'll see that expensive but safe power isn't particularly helpful if there's much cheaper alternatives with only slightly higher death rates.

Plus I think solar and wind are actually safer than nuclear now, but even if they weren't, their cost would probably still edge it.

Re:Nuclear energy is a vital part of solving the climate crisis by weberc2 on Friday November 08, 2019 @01:47PM (#21485389)
> I know nuclear fans are a bit emotional and don't like dealing with hard facts and figures. The thought of a single person dying is too much for them to cope with and they can't make logical decisions as a result, but think about it for a while and you'll see that expensive but safe power isn't particularly helpful if there's much cheaper alternatives with only slightly higher death rates.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but comments like this hardly seem helpful and are very likely against HN rules.

Re:Nuclear energy is a vital part of solving the climate crisis by beat on Friday November 08, 2019 @02:34PM (#21485861)
It's not helpful, but it's spot-on. I always think of this whenever nuclear arguments pop up here. The pro-nuclear side tends to be extremely emotional, but think of themselves as the "logical" ones. It's kind of annoying, actually.
Re:Nuclear energy is a vital part of solving the climate crisis by ZeroGravitas on Friday November 08, 2019 @05:46PM (#21487720)
It was actually an ironic take on the common "more-logical-than-you" stance that nuclear proponents often take, pre-emptively writing off anyone not gung-ho about nuclear as people who can't make objective evaluations either because they're either so irrationally scared of nuclear or are so hippy-dippy that they just want unworkable solutions that sound good but can never work. But yes, it is annoying isn't it?
Re:Nuclear energy is a vital part of solving the climate crisis by weberc2 on Friday November 08, 2019 @07:11PM (#21488393)
I get it, but it’s not a very constructive way to point out their mistake, and it seems like a good way to incite a flame war. Everything else about your comment struck me as really thoughtful.
Re:Nuclear energy is a vital part of solving the climate crisis by 08-15 on Friday November 08, 2019 @02:17PM (#21485701)
Well, my first question would be "How does it work?", then I'd have a good laugh after you explained it. But that's just me...

Anyway, nuclear fans know about the trade off between safety and cost. It is the antinuke zealots who insists that near infinite amounts of money must be spent on making sure that not a single person who might live a million years from must suffer from a slightly increased risk of cancer because of stored fission products, and it is the same zealots who made reactors expensive to begin with by insisting that they must be guarded against events less likely than an asteroid wiping out all humans.

The only way to reconcile your cost-vs-safety reasoning with an antinuclear stance is by assuming that people who die of radiation induced cancer are much, much deadder than people dying any other way.