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Re:A Study of Meditation Under the Influence of Psilocybin by nine_k on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @04:49PM (#21467815)
I don't see why a psychedelic drug can be seen as giving a pleasant experience.

It gives an interesting experience which may be enjoyable or horrible, or anything in between, depending on who and when takes it. Reports of bad trips are widespread. Most native tribes who used psychedelics had rituals of "mental cleansing" of sorts to lower the chance of a bad trip.

Of course if you only learned "meditation" under a drug, you may just not know how to meditate normally. But this is not the case in this study, afaict.

Re:A Study of Meditation Under the Influence of Psilocybin by tasty_freeze on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @05:42PM (#21468375)
> I don't see why a psychedelic drug can be seen as giving a pleasant experience.

and

> It gives an ... experience which may be enjoyable or horrible

Doesn't the second claim answer the first? You just said a trip can be enjoyable, at least some of the time.

To get into specifics, I've done LSD a few times, but never a big dose. Sometimes I've had manageable anxiety on the come-up, and often I've experienced an amazing appreciation of music that made the come-up anxiety a small price to pay. And by "amazing" I mean the difference between looking at an ice cream cone and eating the ice cream cone.

Re:A Study of Meditation Under the Influence of Psilocybin by nine_k on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @07:01PM (#21468970)
My point is that a trip can be difficult and unpleasant as much as it could be nice and entertaining. Psylocibin is not like heroin, cocaine, MDMA, or marijuana, it does not elevate your mood and make you feel better, as far as I know.