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Re:Is Inequality Inevitable? by notahacker on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @04:26PM (#21467527)
A _lot_ of US public policy changes and economic structural changes which favour the rich have happened since 1971. The problem with trying to pin everything on inflation is that inflation has been more stable and lower in recent years than much of the Bretton Woods era...
Re:Is Inequality Inevitable? by __max__ on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @04:59PM (#21467937)
> inflation has been more stable and lower in recent years than much of the Bretton Woods era...

That depends how you measure inflation. The government-published inflation rates use all kinds of creative accounting to make the number seem artificially low. It's in the government's interest to make it seem like that's the case. The reality is that housing prices (and rents) are increasing at a very high rate, and this is probably the biggest expense that we all have to pay. It's also a fundamental need.

Re:Is Inequality Inevitable? by lifty on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @05:40PM (#21468362)
As far as I know, the highest inflation since 2008 has been experienced by "financial assets", which is not really considered in the actual inflation numbers published by the government, because supposedly it's not important for the majority of people. Well, it turns out that when you have an increasingly financialized(is this a word?) economy, it becomes important.
Re:Is Inequality Inevitable? by jonfw on Thursday November 07, 2019 @09:49PM (#21479600)
Housing prices aren't a measure of inflation. The average size of a house has gone up, the average quality of a home has gone up. Houses have more appliances, air/cooling, and electronics which increases pricing. They aren't making any more land, and our population is increasing, so naturally land prices will rise.

If you were able track housing prices of equivalent homes and adjust for land scarcity from population- you'd have a much stronger metric. Without that context it's hardly relevant.

Re:Is Inequality Inevitable? by imtringued on Thursday November 07, 2019 @09:22AM (#21473388)
The crazy part about inflation isn't that the governments are focusing on a narrow definition of inflation. The crazy part is the idea that inflation is global. If you pump in money into the financial sector it will immediately propagate to consumer prices. The outcome is obvious.
Re:Is Inequality Inevitable? by throwaway2048 on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @05:14PM (#21468102)
Also healthcare and education, which are also not measured
Re:Is Inequality Inevitable? by Empact on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @05:44PM (#21468407)
According to the chart below, housing, food and beverage and other costs are up > 56% over the last 20 years. Granted, for many things in society, prices have declined thanks to manufacturing advances and trade, etc.

The difference is between those who held dollars and had a 56%+ loss of value over 20 years, vs those who held the same in assets which appreciated at the same rate as the general increase, and so did not lose value over time. https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/chart-of-the-day-or-century/

Re:Is Inequality Inevitable? by notahacker on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @06:32PM (#21468753)
Who pays for their housing, food and beverages out of a stash of dollar bills accumulated 20 years ago though? The same chart shows the wages they buy their food and beverages with actually rising faster on average, and people saving their wages for a house in future or a pension fund for their future food and beverages tend to put it in places which pay interest.

Granted, you're a lot worse off if you need to pay a hospital bill or go to college, but I don't think any serious person argues that the real structural problem there is lack of a Gold Standard...

Re:Is Inequality Inevitable? by fuzzfactor on Thursday November 07, 2019 @07:33AM (#21472595)
>Who pays for their housing, food and beverages out of a stash of dollar bills accumulated 20 years ago

Very few people could afford to do this, but in some markets for home ownership those would be the only type that could actually afford to own a home any more.

The gold standard has always been there for thousands of years and is likely to remain for many forseeable lifetimes to come.

The structural problems (from the citizens' point of view) are a result of how & when the US declined to participate any longer.

Not much different than anyone else over the centuries who could once afford a little gold but no longer any at all.

Remember since the US dollar was always tied to gold (after foolishly withdrawing from additionally constitutionally mandated silver in an earlier century), then when that was later tied to the confiscation of gold from the citizens, that allowed the dollar to be more powerful than gold as long as US taxpayer's assets were strong, making the USA actually relatively affluent as a nation. Therefore the gold price worldwide could be stabilized at $35 per ounce for decades, indefinitely if the taxpayer's assets would have been truly worth preserving by the regime. This was as long as the dollar remained tied to gold, even though citizens had not been allowed to hold gold of their own for most people's lifetime by then. With income taxes skyrocketing beyond the "temporary 1 percent tax on income" needed to pay for wars, tremendous wealth was transferred to the federal government over the decades and held as gold, until the fed had more wealth than the citizens which is the opposite of how the US actually grew as a free country, back when prosperous stuff could just pop up anywhere without federal interference.

Then one day Nixon comes along and offers the US gold to the rest of the world for $36 per ounce. Citizens still not allowed to participate, but the Saudis for example being some really big ones having a faster appreciating asset that sizable took great interest because they could actually afford to trade a portion of their faster-appreciating asset for one with less forseeable upside at the time.

Then Nixon "opens up China" so there can sooner be a new lower living standard to decline towards, gradually of course which is generous because the taxpayers can be put into free-fall at any time without a parachute since then.