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Re:California Mayors Join Campaign to Buy Out PG&E by ogre_codes on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @06:30PM (#21458030)
First... how can they fuck things up worse than PG&E has? Right now they have unreliable power, dangerous infrastructure, and some of the shittiest rates.

Second: Here in Oregon there are tons of smaller power companies mostly owned by local cities, counties, or non-profits. https://www.oregon.gov/energy/energy-oregon/Pages/Oregon-Uti...

There is very little of the animosity towards these utilities I used to see in California about PG&E. They are run well and keep rates reasonable. I just wish we had a similarly run replacement for Comcast.

Whether California could do something similar, I have no idea. It's pretty surprising how different the culture about this kind of thing is between the two adjacent states. The big issue is item 1 above... PG&E sets an awfully low bar. Maybe if PG&E's management got personally fined when a fire broke out and stopped getting paid when there was a blackout.

Re:California Mayors Join Campaign to Buy Out PG&E by malandrew on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @07:05PM (#21458344)
> how can they fuck things up worse than PG&E has

All three of these are possibilities:

- more fires

- more days without power

- more expensive

Re:California Mayors Join Campaign to Buy Out PG&E by labster on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @02:41AM (#21460506)
Right but basically every CCE in California has cheaper rates than PG&E. So "more expensive" is very unlikely on power generation. It may be more expensive because PG&E decided to extract all of the cash and neglect maintenance, unlike other California investor-owned utilities (SoCal Edison, SDG&E). But that boat has already sailed.
Re:California Mayors Join Campaign to Buy Out PG&E by Rebelgecko on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @01:14AM (#21460145)
When I try comparing my LADWP rates to PG&E, they seem pretty "competitive". Are Oregon utilities cheaper because of all the hydro?