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Re:Risky Mortgage Bonds Are Back and Delinquencies Are Pilin... by landryraccoon on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @04:20PM (#21456829)
> CN bookkeeping’s suspect...

IMO Americans are biased to overweight this. It doesn't matter as long as China can keep up appearances better than other countries for long enough. Investors will happily invest in a bubble believing that they are smart enough to get out before everyone else if things go south.

Bad bookkeeping doesn't keep the NBA and Activision from kowtowing to China, I don't see why it would keep people from investing there either.

Re:Risky Mortgage Bonds Are Back and Delinquencies Are Pilin... by ISL on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @04:27PM (#21456892)
One of the many Buffett-isms is to only make investments where, if the market were to close for five years, you'd sleep well. It is that premise that shapes my investing theses relating to China.
Re:Risky Mortgage Bonds Are Back and Delinquencies Are Pilin... by chepaslaaa on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @11:05PM (#21459639)
If investors were all as wise as Buffet time arbitrage wouldn't be a thing.
Re:Risky Mortgage Bonds Are Back and Delinquencies Are Pilin... by awinder on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @04:43PM (#21457040)
1. Yeah plenty of non-Americans think this too, _maybe_ if you said “westerners” it’d be defensible, but it’d still be wrong.

2. The nba & activision are selling goods to China, or maybe they put a little money into real assets to reach that audience. They’re not investing in Chinese financial instruments which is what the entire thread is about

Re:Risky Mortgage Bonds Are Back and Delinquencies Are Pilin... by landryraccoon on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @06:06PM (#21457785)
If China has enough real money to bend the NBA and Activision doesn’t that imply that the bookkeeping isn’t fake - CN’s success is real, not imagined?
Re:Risky Mortgage Bonds Are Back and Delinquencies Are Pilin... by mc32 on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @06:30PM (#21458028)
No, it’s like a car dealership not extending credit to someone with bad credit but who will gladly take a bank check.
Re:Risky Mortgage Bonds Are Back and Delinquencies Are Pilin... by landryraccoon on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @06:58PM (#21458282)
I don't see the distinction. If they have Activision, Apple, Tesla and Disney as customers why wouldn't banks, financial markets and investors trust them? I would argue they already do, I highly doubt China has trouble floating debt or attracting foreign investment right now.
Re:Risky Mortgage Bonds Are Back and Delinquencies Are Pilin... by mc32 on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @05:01PM (#21457209)
Exactly, now if they were paying the nba etc with 30 year Chinese non transferable bonds the parent would have a case.
Re:Risky Mortgage Bonds Are Back and Delinquencies Are Pilin... by landryraccoon on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @07:00PM (#21458312)
Why would investors not want to invest in a country that flush with liquid cash? I don't see how this is an argument that investors wouldn't see China as desirable.
Re:Risky Mortgage Bonds Are Back and Delinquencies Are Pilin... by awinder on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @09:35PM (#21459215)
Because Chinas current market system is just about a decade old.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_accounting_standards

By all means, investors want to put money into China. It’s the amount of money you want to put into an immature market that is the question. And that’s not a dig and it’s not jingoistic, it’s just a fact, when you run a large market for over a century you kinda build solid foundations that can’t just be replicated on the spot. China’s market developing is a great thing but it’s just too young to seriously think it’s ready to be a reserve currency today.

Re:Risky Mortgage Bonds Are Back and Delinquencies Are Pilin... by diminoten on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @04:29PM (#21456904)
Americans aren't the only ones to overweight the shady monetary policy in China, and as a result it'll not become the defacto standard like the US Dollar is, as long as that shadiness remains.
Re:Risky Mortgage Bonds Are Back and Delinquencies Are Pilin... by bduerst on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @04:54PM (#21457127)
Such as who? I agree with GP and still think this is biased projection. Factors such as growing trade control over APAC and a middle class larger than the population of the U.S. only speak in favor of the Yuan. Also, what you call shady currency control can be viewed as a be a signal of ensuring stability.