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Re:How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct by lrem on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @04:21AM (#21450881)
I feel I can trust Google today. What if Larry and Sergey sell the company tomorrow? What if I decide to go into politics and a written record of me saying the sky is blue and 2+2=4 becomes a problem?

As someone who supported a major database in Google some five years ago: the amount of development effort that went into the GDPR compliance (we haven't even heard that name then, only that the EU is brewing a law that requires us to be able to delete data) was very surprising. So at least one corp does actually delete the data correctly.

Re:How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct by lima on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @08:02AM (#21451953)
Yandex' open source ClickHouse analytics database also had significant engineering effort applied to enable selective and permanent deletion of data in what used to be an append-only database that could only drop whole partitions. Regulation works, and the large tech companies are the most likely to be compliant, since they have the most to lose and have mature compliance and legal processes. Google is particularly good about this - consumer trust is their #1 asset.
Re:How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct by nathias on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @06:00AM (#21451280)
if you feel you can trust Google today, you'll probably feel the same way in the future, regardless of what happens
Re:How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct by LocalPCGuy on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @08:39AM (#21452232)
This just ... isn't true. People can and do evolve their opinions, feelings and levels of trust over time. I.e. people change. Particularly in response to external changes as you imply ("regardless of what happens").
Re:How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct by nathias on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @09:46AM (#21452787)
people are like slowly boiling frogs, google stopped not being evil a long time ago
Re:How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct by LocalPCGuy on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @08:47AM (#21462473)
Not arguing on the point of whether google is evil or not, or when that happened.

But the boiling frog analogy is something that just isn't true:

> "According to Dr. George R. Zug, curator of reptiles and amphibians, the National Museum of Natural History, 'Well that's, may I say, bullshit. If a frog had a means of getting out, it certainly would get out. And I cannot imagine that anything dropped in boiling water would not be scalded and die from the injuries.'"

> "Professor Doug Melton, Harvard University Biology Department, says, 'If you put a frog in boiling water, it won't jump out. It will die. If you put it in cold water, it will jump before it gets hot -- they don't sit still for you.'"

> "Vic's (Dr. Victor Hutchison of the University of Oklahoma) answer was as follows: 'The legend is entirely incorrect! The 'critical thermal maxima' of many species of frogs have been determined by several investigators. In this procedure, the water in which a frog is submerged is heated gradually at about 2 degrees Fahrenheit per minute. As the temperature of the water is gradually increased, the frog will eventually become more and more active in attempts to escape the heated water. If the container size and opening allow the frog to jump out, it will do so. Naturally, if the frog were not allowed to escape it would eventually begin to show signs of heat stress, muscular spasms, heat rigor, and death.'"

Quotes from: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=758865

Additional info: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2006/09/the-b...

Re:How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct by nathias on Saturday November 09, 2019 @03:53PM (#21494281)
factual frog behavior is irrelevant to that analogy, but I appreciate new frog facts nonetheless
Re:How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct by lrem on Friday November 08, 2019 @03:51AM (#21480794)
I re-evaluate my stances rather regularly. I've switched on brands, politics, climate change approach, even countries to live. I don't think Google has some kind of magic stranglehold, it's just a company I like right now.