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Re:How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct by TheSpiceIsLife on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @02:46AM (#21450454)
This is how I feel about it.

I don’t have any faith that I’m going to be protected from current / future persecution because I ticked / didn’t tick some box on some control panel on some service provided by Morally Bankrupt MegaCorp.

Re:How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct by theelous3 on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @07:01AM (#21451577)
That's a bit pessimistic/paranoid and off the bat doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

If your data is supposed to have been deleted but they ignored it, they have it illegally.

If someone from the state wants to prosecute you and requests the data, the company wouldn't own up to having it, because they're not allowed have it.

Why would they lie to you, and then sell themselves out to the state?

Fine, they might keep it, but not in order to assist in prosecutions lol

Re:How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct by Lio on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @07:37AM (#21451805)
The way Google acts with regard to privacy law is similar to how they act with regard to tax law.

That is they look for loopholes and places they can use dark patterns to nudge users into giving up more data. They stay within the rules but push the envelope of what’s acceptable to the legal limit.

It’s not that they are holding onto data specifically to support prosecutions it’s that they hold onto data because that’s what Google do.

They’d hand that over because they have it and to not cooperate would unnecessarily cause them business friction they could easily avoid.

Re:How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct by theelous3 on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @12:40AM (#21460006)
So the conspiracy is rather that the delete button simply doesn't do anything?

I don't think that would go down well for the prosecution if you ever ended up in court.

The reality is that 99.99% of users never even open their account settings, let alone micromanage their identity's state across dozens of platforms. Google wouldn't even notice if all hn readers deleted all of their data and deactivated their accounts tomorrow.

The most reasonable thing for them to do is to actually delete the data, and avoid all headaches. It's the more profitable move. You look like good guys and avoid legal problems.

Re:How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct by Lio on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @01:32PM (#21465462)
Nope that’s not the conspiracy. The conspiracy is that you’ve pressed the wrong button because the UI is deliberately confusing.

If you could find the right button I’m sure it would delete the data...

except that it’s down the UI equivalent three flights of stairs to the basement, behind a filing cabinet in front of a locked door with a sign on saying “Beware of the leopard”.

Oh and every tracking feature is on by default even if you’re not logged in.

Re:How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct by theelous3 on Thursday November 07, 2019 @05:20PM (#21477926)
Well, maybe for you. I'm in the EU. I don't have to navigate a UI. I can go the UI route, or I can email them instead for a surefire approach.

Even then, the UI's for these things usually aren't actually that darkpatterned. Once you get down the first dark tunnel, it tends to open up quite well.

Re:How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct by TheSpiceIsLife on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @04:13PM (#21456763)
Parallel construction. Advanced Persistent Threat. State Level Actor.

I think we ought to assume Big Corp doesn't delete anything and shares that not-deleted data with, at least, the Five Eyes.

Re:How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct by subjectupstairs on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @07:55AM (#21451918)
I feel the same way brother.