Err Ok... you have a point to make but it is not what you think it is. :) It has nothing to do with Java Programmers. It has everything to do with premature optimization and implantation of Design Patters for the sake of Implementing a Design Pattern ... for more information on what I am trying to get at please read Refactoring to Patterns [http://www.informit.com/store/product.aspx?isbn=013265119X]