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Re:Why cement emissions matter for climate change (2018) by mikepurvis on Sunday November 03, 2019 @08:23PM (#21438154)
In particular, anything about single-use plastics is mostly a distraction. There's something to be said for the emissions cost of delivering and disposing of them, but in general, sucking oil out of the ground, turning it into plastic objects, and then burying those plastic objects back in the ground is a "complete lifecycle", much more so than releasing that oil's carbon into the atmosphere via combustion.

All the more so if the plastic objects are mostly buried alongside other plastic objects where they can be dug up and reprocessed later on as the need arises.

Re:Why cement emissions matter for climate change (2018) by XorNot on Monday November 04, 2019 @08:07AM (#21441239)
Except single use plastics don't end up in the ground reliably: they end up in water ways, beaches, wetlands and the oceans. They degrade into micro plastics and then end up in the food chain.

They are a huge problem for non-emissions reasons.

Re:Why cement emissions matter for climate change (2018) by mikepurvis on Monday November 04, 2019 @10:17AM (#21442362)
Oh yeah, they're definitely a problem, and work should be done to reduce and eliminate them. But they're not directly a climate change problem.

Also, if you live in a major western city, especially a non-coastal one, your garbage is pretty reliably ending up in a landfill. 90% of river-borne plastic pollution comes from just 10 rivers, all of which are in Asia and Africa: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/06/90-of-plastic-polluti...

This is not a get-of-jail-free card to the rest of the world, but it does change the nature of our responsibility— in particular, it means that individual action is almost entirely worthless. Because the issue in the west is not the trash, it's that we're culturally exporting a single-use lifestyle that creates all that mess when it is imitated in places without the pipeline in place to manage the waste. So what is needed is a collective cultural change in order to alter what we export via our media, and the actions/expectations of our politicians, celebrities, tourists, etc.