Re:A CS degree is better than teaching yourself how to code?
by jcims on Sunday November 03, 2019 @01:35AM
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Is there any part of a CS degree that educates students on how networks operate or what a protocol looks like on a wire? Most of the new grads I work with seem to think of all of that as a black box and are completely stuck when things aren’t working.
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Re:A CS degree is better than teaching yourself how to code?
by thethirdone on Sunday November 03, 2019 @01:25AM
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There are certainly classes that cover networking.
IP, TCP, DNS, and HTTP were covered in classes I took.
As for actually on the wire. I haven't studied anything about how ethernet actually works. I assume its kindof like i2c, but I don't know more than that and haven't needed to.
Re:A CS degree is better than teaching yourself how to code?
by scarface74 on Sunday November 03, 2019 @08:03AM
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So if college was so invaluable teaching networking, how do you think people who went to school before http existed learned? Just like everything else, you can learn as needed.
Re:A CS degree is better than teaching yourself how to code?
by thethirdone on Sunday November 03, 2019 @08:35AM
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> So if college was so invaluable teaching networking,
I never said or implied that college was invaluable for teaching networking. I just answered a question about what was taught.
Re:A CS degree is better than teaching yourself how to code?
by scaryclam on Sunday November 03, 2019 @08:26AM
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Mine here in the UK covered quite a lot if networking protocols, so yes, there are some out there. In fact, it's never occured to me that this wouldn't be covered. I'd be pretty disappointed if a new grad couldn't figure out how to how to at least approach diagnosing an issue :(
Re:A CS degree is better than teaching yourself how to code?
by fivre on Sunday November 03, 2019 @03:12AM
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My CS degree had it as an elective. It was the class I did the worst in, and I now work primarily with network protocol implementations. Good foundation though, even though the prof was terrible at designing assignments.
Re:A CS degree is better than teaching yourself how to code?
by roywiggins on Sunday November 03, 2019 @01:47AM
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My undergrad had a good computer architecture class, but it didn't cover networking. That's definitely a pretty big hole in my knowledge. A networking class would absolutely have slotted in quite easily to the CS curriculum.
Re:A CS degree is better than teaching yourself how to code?
by innocentoldguy on Sunday November 03, 2019 @03:08AM
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This would have been a great class to replace the "How to Double-click a Mouse 101" class that my college required all students to take.