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Re:Raspberry Pi 4 as a USB-C peripheral by kees99 on Saturday November 02, 2019 @06:48PM (#21430659)

  [R]ecent update to the Raspberry Pi 4 bootloader
  (...) enables data over the USB-C port
Am I reading this right that RPi4 has five usable USB ports, i.e. unlike earlier models, port on bottom left of the board can carry data along with power? This is awesome!
Re:Raspberry Pi 4 as a USB-C peripheral by fanf2 on Saturday November 02, 2019 @07:24PM (#21430836)
USB-C includes a USB-2 management channel in addition to the high-bandwidth lanes. It is used for things like advanced power delivery negotiation. On the Raspberry Pi 4, the USB-C port has no high-bandwidth lanes, and it only uses passive power negotiation.
Re:Raspberry Pi 4 as a USB-C peripheral by cesarb on Saturday November 02, 2019 @10:14PM (#21431599)
> USB-C includes a USB-2 management channel in addition to the high-bandwidth lanes. It is used for things like advanced power delivery negotiation.

No, all the power delivery negotiation in USB-C, both the basic one using only passive resistor values and the advanced one using the USB-PD protocol, is through the configuration channel pins, which is a separate pair of pins completely independent from the USB 2.0 pins in the middle. (The configuration channel is implemented incorrectly on the Raspberry Pi 4, however; it shorts together the pins, while they should be separate, so it fails with advanced cables which use both pins; and when powered through a source other than the USB-C connector, it incorrectly sources 5V to the USB-C port even when it shouldn't.)

Re:Raspberry Pi 4 as a USB-C peripheral by mmastrac on Saturday November 02, 2019 @08:55PM (#21431273)
This seems to be in opposition to the blog post. In addition, according to the schematic there's USB-2 over that USB-C port:

https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberry...

Re:Raspberry Pi 4 as a USB-C peripheral by hardillb on Saturday November 02, 2019 @06:49PM (#21430667)
Yep