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Re:Adam Neumann and the Art of Failing Up by situational87 on Saturday November 02, 2019 @09:20AM (#21427535)
Business schools are going to study WeWork and Adam in the same chapter as Bernie Madoff and MCI Worldcom. This has been one of the most successful scams of all time.

The fact that it was all legal is just mind-boggling.

Re:Adam Neumann and the Art of Failing Up by puranjay on Saturday November 02, 2019 @10:02AM (#21427755)
Its a perfectly legitimate business that brings in billions of dollars and may even be profitable with some optimization. To call it a scam a la a Ponzi scheme is a little too harsh.
Re:Adam Neumann and the Art of Failing Up by 0xffff2 on Saturday November 02, 2019 @12:00PM (#21428360)
WeWork isn't the scam. The way Neumann managed to cash out is the scam.
Re:Adam Neumann and the Art of Failing Up by adrr on Saturday November 02, 2019 @09:40AM (#21427646)
Was it a scam? Adam didn't violate any laws. Investors should have done diligence and all the self dealing would have came out during an audit. Fact they didn't is what i think is the scam. If i was an lp in the fund, i would think about suing the fund for the breach of duty.
Re:Adam Neumann and the Art of Failing Up by rabidrat on Saturday November 02, 2019 @10:07AM (#21427782)
Good scams start off as legal until new laws are written detailing how exactly the scams are illegal in the future.
Re:Adam Neumann and the Art of Failing Up by SpicyLemonZest on Saturday November 02, 2019 @11:49AM (#21428305)
Maybe, but this is very different from the original examples of Madoff and Worldcom. Their scams were flagrantly illegal at the time that they did them.
Re:Adam Neumann and the Art of Failing Up by wayoutthere on Saturday November 02, 2019 @09:40AM (#21427648)
It's legal because the people that got duped were "professional investors". It will be a good case study for an investment analysis class though.

Would absolutely be a different discussion if they had IPOed.

Re:Adam Neumann and the Art of Failing Up by travisoneill1 on Saturday November 02, 2019 @10:19AM (#21427831)
No, it's legal because he never lied. He did all that shit right out in the open and disclosed it to potential investors in the S-1.