Epstein's injuries look more like murder than suicide, noted pathologist says

Re:Epstein's injuries look more like murder than suicide, no... by jacobush on Thursday October 31, 2019 @04:48AM (#21406796)

I agree but what makes it so hard to swallow is that phrase, "be much less than they thought", should really be "be much more than they thought".

I mean, your heroes sometimes turn out to be all that and so many more, horrible things. It's hard to fathom that people can contain good and bad qualities, and after the fact push them aside among "bad people". But if you do this, you won't learn anything, or be watchful of your remaining heroes.

Next time you idolize someone, remember that. They may be more things and those things may not all be pretty.

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Re:Epstein's injuries look more like murder than suicide, no... by lozf on Thursday October 31, 2019 @09:34AM (#21408520)

> I agree but what makes it so hard to swallow is that phrase, "be much less than they thought", should really be "be much more than they thought"

The English Language strikes again. Apologies for wandering off-topic, but to (hopefully) clarify:

You're thinking of less / more in the quantitative sense, suggesting some people have _more_ traits, some of which are unpleasant.

I think GP was using less in the qualitative sense - "a lesser person for lacking moral fiber", if you will.

Both are valid, but contextual ambiguity interferes with interpretation.

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Re:Epstein's injuries look more like murder than suicide, no... by jacobush on Thursday October 31, 2019 @10:08AM (#21408932)

Agreed. I just grabbed a hook in the text to latch onto a mindset I think is prevalent. (Closely related to "us vs them", the in-group and the out-group, etc.)

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