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Re:Simple Does Not Mean Ugly by Finnucane on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @09:45AM (#21397632)
Many of your users would probably disagree.
Re:Simple Does Not Mean Ugly by dubcanada on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @09:56AM (#21397747)
Many of Hacker News visitors would probably disagree. What most of us don't seem to understand is what Hacker News says is not the common statement of most. People here tend to be on the less design side of things, most on the can I use this entirely with my keyboard. Most of the population however is not like that.

I don't see any statistics that the average user has any preference over which button to use out of the 3 examples provided. I think most users would assume buttons are supposed to look like the sites/apps they visit/use most, amazon, facebook, google, instagram, etc. If you button functions similar to those examples your users would be happy.

Re:Simple Does Not Mean Ugly by shantly on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @11:58AM (#21399113)
Normal users tend to be "less on the design side" when it comes to actual usability. They might (or might not—I don't think most companies bother to find out) care that you came up with some hot-shit pretty design that impressed the VPs, but for UX the more "designery" your site the greater the odds it'll be hard for normal people to use.

[EDIT] which is to say I think a lot of application design hours/$s have more to do with cargo-cult "brand styling" from the marketing department, and internal promotion of a project + personal portfolio-building and design-insider signaling than with benefits to end-user marketing, sales, or usability. It's not all useless from that perspective, obviously, but I'm very confident a lot of it is.

Re:Simple Does Not Mean Ugly by majewsky on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @12:42PM (#21399668)
> People here tend to be on the less design side of things, most on the can I use this entirely with my keyboard.

Wrong dichotomy. "Design" is not about the amount of eye-candy. Design is about how to make a product so that the user can use it most effectively. Making it visually appealing is an integral part of that, but only part of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieter_Rams#%22Good_design%22_...

Re:Simple Does Not Mean Ugly by simonklitj on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @09:59AM (#21397779)
Really? I personally doubt users would prefer Skeuomorphic buttons. I know most of my friends are hit by nostalgia when they see something Skeuomorphic, sort of a "Remember when things were this way?", and I honestly do not want any of my products to perpetuate this emotion.
Re:Simple Does Not Mean Ugly by NotATroll on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @10:38AM (#21398205)
> I personally doubt users would prefer Skeuomorphic buttons.

I personally doubt users would know the word Skeuomorphic, let alone care what the button looks like.

> and I honestly do not want any of my products to perpetuate this emotion.

Why would you not want nostalgia? There are entire product brands built on taking advantage of nostalgia.

And nostalgia doesn't even imply "Hah, this is old and inferior".

Re:Simple Does Not Mean Ugly by dorkwood on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @07:10PM (#21403993)
> Why would you not want nostalgia? There are entire product brands built on taking advantage of nostalgia.

Surely that's not appropriate for every brand, though? Especially if you're trying to look cutting-edge.

Re:Simple Does Not Mean Ugly by NotATroll on Thursday October 31, 2019 @09:47AM (#21408660)
I think it genuinely depends on what your users are nostalgic over.

You can look cutting edge while taking advantage of nostalgia.

To be entirely honest, the "flat design" doesn't look "cutting-edge". It looks basic, which is because, well. It is. Intentionally so. If users don't care what your buttons look like, why spend tons of time making them look a specific style. That's just more time spent.

I'd argue that the reason it's become so prevalent, is exactly that. Less time spent designing, more time spent on features.

Re:Simple Does Not Mean Ugly by alxlaz on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @10:58AM (#21398441)
> Really? I personally doubt users would prefer Skeuomorphic buttons.

Have you tested this assumption, or is it simply something that you suspect? There's nothing wrong with having an opinion, but don't mistake it for an analysis!

Re:Simple Does Not Mean Ugly by simonklitj on Friday November 01, 2019 @09:08AM (#21418287)
Agreed 100%! Which is why I made sure to write that it was my personal assumption.