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Re:UK Election Tech Handbook by obayesshelton on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @09:32AM (#21397480)
My only concern is that the people who run the tools etc. have their political view. For example "https://tacticalvote.co.uk" is clearly against the Conservative party. So that tool is straight away biased.
Re:UK Election Tech Handbook by dangerface on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @09:37AM (#21397523)
> UNITE AGAINST THE TORIES

Every one has a bias at least they own it. As long as they are not pretending to be unbiased I'm fine with it.

Re:UK Election Tech Handbook by methehack on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @09:48AM (#21397663)
If promoting voting or identifying the disinformation campaigns of nation states is considered bias, than consider me happily labeled. However, I think there's something categorically different about such tools as they are not so much promoting a specific outcome as allowing for a more representative outcome, aka a functioning democracy where people are exchanging ideas not click rates.
Re:UK Election Tech Handbook by dangerface on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @10:37AM (#21398192)
Our representative democracy is setup as a two party system (first past the post elections) if we want a more representative outcome we should switch to a direct democracy or implement the alternative vote.

Free exchange of ideas is my ultimate goal but the average voter doesn't share this goal, they get their information from "authoritative" sources such as "their" party or the mass media.

We did have a vote to bring in the alternate vote but every major party (left and right) and media outlet (left and right) slammed it as anti-democratic.

We can't depend on the average voter to get informed and vote representatively because the system intentionally prevents this.

Re:UK Election Tech Handbook by specialist on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @10:59AM (#21398457)
"alternative vote"

If you mean switch from FPTP to some form of RCV for executive positions or proportional representation (PR) for assemblies, then I agree.

For RCV, I strongly prefer Approval Voting, which best balances fairness and simplicity.

But we'll get the most benefits from PR.

Re:UK Election Tech Handbook by Pete_D on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @02:15PM (#21400751)
"alternative vote" is the term the UK ended up using for instant-runoff voting when it had a referendum a few years back.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Alternative_Vot...

Re:UK Election Tech Handbook by Wildgoose on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @08:07PM (#21404418)
Not quite. I think the proposals only affected the top two ranked candidates in the first round, i.e. arguably no better than First Past the Post.

Approval Voting would be simple, easy to understand and a vast improvemnet.

Re:UK Election Tech Handbook by dangerface on Friday November 01, 2019 @10:29AM (#21419214)
> If you mean switch from FPTP

Yup don't really care what the new vote is. I live in Northern Ireland where we have single transferable vote I think its great.

It hasn't fixed our two party system but I have noticed a dramatic change in the way people think about voting.

For the most part people no longer feel the need to vote against some one and now vote for who they want, I have also noticed people seem to feel their vote is worth more as a result.

Re:UK Election Tech Handbook by pjc50 on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @11:11AM (#21398592)
Well .. yes?

Almost nobody gets into politics without a reason. Nobody is going to put effort into something without an objective to achieve. Nobody is unbiased. And trying to treat good and bad ideas the same way, or honest and dishonest people, is doomed to encourage the bad to drive out the good.

Re:UK Election Tech Handbook by specialist on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @10:53AM (#21398388)
Only trust mutual mistrust.

When all the belligerents, err aspirants, certify the results, then it's probably good enough.

Re:UK Election Tech Handbook by nathan_young on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @09:59AM (#21397780)
Feel free to edit text to note if tools are biased/add tools with different biases.

(disclosure, I helped initiate the doc)

Re:UK Election Tech Handbook by mhh__ on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @10:21AM (#21398035)
Think about the name... You have to vote tactically against something ergo someone
Re:UK Election Tech Handbook by tialaramex on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @02:56PM (#21401196)
Or _for_ something. All electoral systems have flaws, all the ones that would be practical for this purpose (election of individual candidate representatives from a list by the general population) are subject to tactical voting of some sort.

In this case - FPTP - the tactics are to identify the (usually two) candidates that most plausibly could win in your district and pick from those, ignoring all other candidates. If Apples win with 310 votes and Bears had 290 votes, those Apple-haters who gave Cheese 60 votes to come in a distant third are kicking themselves.

For many (millions of?) voters in the UK the idea is to achieve a specific outcome on a single issue (Brexit) which is not actually on the ballot at all, so tactics come into deciding how to vote so as to make your preferred outcome more likely to occur.