Re:$15 minimum wage didn’t hurt NYC restaurants
by thatfrenchguy on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @10:41AM
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> Retail jobs aren't meant to be bread-winner jobs. Any zero-skill job is going to pay whatever the local market minimum is.
Says who ? Why is your tech job supposed to be a bread winner job ?
Re:$15 minimum wage didn’t hurt NYC restaurants
by subject117 on Thursday October 31, 2019 @08:14PM
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Says the monetary value created from a tech job vs the monetary value created from a retail job.
Re:$15 minimum wage didn’t hurt NYC restaurants
by enobrev on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @10:36AM
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I absolutely agree with your second paragraph.
For the rest, I'd recommend you spend a half year working in the service industry for half minimum wage plus tips before throwing around phrases like "zero-skill".
Re:$15 minimum wage didn’t hurt NYC restaurants
by linuxftw on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @03:37PM
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I waited tables for minimum wage plus tips prior to moving on to other things. I considered it a zero skill job. Literally no experience necessary, they'll hire anyone.
There are plenty of zero-skill jobs (or maybe we should say zero-value-skill), and they're going to pay zero-skill job wages. You're free to pretend that's not the case, reality proves otherwise.
Re:$15 minimum wage didn’t hurt NYC restaurants
by namarie on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @10:20AM
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> Retail jobs aren't meant to be bread-winner jobs.
And yet they are. Should people suffer degradation for it?
Re:$15 minimum wage didn’t hurt NYC restaurants
by linuxftw on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @03:42PM
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Unfortunately, most people spend the first 18 years of their life learning not-so-useful things, at least in the US. They might go on to college, spend lots of money, and waste several more years learning not-so-useful things.
Then they work retail jobs for little money. It's their own doing.
There are two ways to raise the minimum market wage. First is minimum wage laws. Second is to increase labor demand or shorten labor supply.
There's clearly a surplus of no-skilled labor in the US, yet we're still importing more of it. Businesses are capitalizing on the market conditions and exploiting the labor surplus, that's why we're seeing the proliferation of so many chain restaurants and and other little-to-no-value businesses.