Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track

Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by kaibee on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @09:30AM (#21386871)

AMD is currently using TSMC for their new line of CPUS. I think this gives AMD a huge advantage over Intel, as they can always just go to whoever has the best foundry.

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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by georgeburdell on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @10:51AM (#21387786)

You’re taking the current situation and crafting a narrative around it. If Intel were ahead, you would be extolling the tight integration of fab and design that only Intel offers. Apple is one current company that’s bucking your narrative by bringing more and more in house and is doing well.

The truth is that both models work and Intel’s problems are created by their management, not by their operating model.

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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by ClumsyPilot on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @11:20AM (#21388151)

I can't see why you are getting down-voted - I see people do this kind of post-factum 'reasoning backwards' all the time, and it's all make-believe.

If these theories had real predictive power, they would allow you to make a killing on the stock market.

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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by gumby on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @03:56PM (#21391324)

Thanks, I hadn't realized that!

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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by briffle on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @11:14AM (#21388068)

In theory, so could Intel.

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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by fortran77 on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @11:06AM (#21387965)

We just saw on Hacker News today that AMD machines can't even boot and are having trouble getting their microcode updated. How is that a "huge advantage?"

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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by katmannthree on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @11:18AM (#21388118)

Do you have a link to that?

Anecdotally, I'm using two Ryzen 3000 systems right now (a 3900X and a 3200U) and both are working just fine.

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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by fortran77 on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @11:33AM (#21388294)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21385857

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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by katmannthree on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @12:01PM (#21388658)

Thank you. That's less of a generic "can't even boot" issue and more of an incompatibility with installed software (wireguard) and the kernel workaround in recent linux versions for the microcode bug.

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