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Re:Startpage is now owned by an advertising company by detaro on Sunday October 27, 2019 @07:31PM (#21373156)
It's kind of funny how both counter-replies seem to ignore everything after the first word of "value to the average consumer's browsing experience".
Re:Startpage is now owned by an advertising company by eropple on Sunday October 27, 2019 @08:03PM (#21373322)
There's that old saw about being incapable of understanding when one's salary depends on the misunderstanding, and it applies here. Our profession has helped make advertisements markedly worse (which is to say, better, by data-mining the hell out of individuals and aggregates alike and sharpening the psychological tools of attack to points) and markedly more aggressive, but fuck it, let's go shopping. I guess.
Re:Startpage is now owned by an advertising company by rdbell on Sunday October 27, 2019 @08:21PM (#21373385)
Did you read the last paragraph in my post? I explicitly addressed that. My point is:

1. Ad arbitrage has a role.

2. The blame of annoying/bad UX is unfairly being deferred to arbitragers. It's usually the implementation that annoys users, and that's generally the publisher's fault.

I don't know anything about System1's ethics and I'm not trying defend them by any means, but I don't agree with an argument that X company is bad because they've participated in arbitrage.

Re:Startpage is now owned by an advertising company by theamk on Sunday October 27, 2019 @11:07PM (#21373915)
I think it is entirely fair to blame arbitragers. They are the only ones who can control the advertisement implementation (as website owners no longer have direct relationships with ad providers), and they clearly fail to do so.