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Re:Stealing private keys from a secure file sharing service by tptacek on Sunday October 27, 2019 @04:46PM (#21372276)
We're meant to give credit to a service that fixed an XSS vulnerability in an hour, and that is indeed a better-than-market turnaround time for an XSS bugfix.

But consider an alternative perspective: this is a company that was offering users "encrypted" file transfer mediated by clientside browser Javascript, in which there is only dubious, marginal cryptographic separation between customers and the service itself, which could just as easily serve targeted customers surreptitious DOM updates to override their claimed security capabilities.

But that fundamental problem didn't matter, because the service didn't even sanitize basic, obvious user data, and was exposed to a trivial XSS.

Re:Stealing private keys from a secure file sharing service by ozim on Sunday October 27, 2019 @06:41PM (#21372923)
First thing I thought was "oh let them slide, when you think about big issues, you might slip on some sanitize code".

But then I thought, if you advertise something as "encrypted" and "secure" or more secure than competition, you should get at least basic pentest. It is not cheap to get one and a good one but that kind of XSS would be ruled out...

Re:Stealing private keys from a secure file sharing service by say_it_as_it_is on Monday October 28, 2019 @06:06AM (#21375607)
Aren't you professionally paid to fix these kinds of problems? You would be out of work if every developer and product manager put exhaustive pen testing on its to-do list prior to launch.

First to market is your bread and butter, tptacek.

Re:Stealing private keys from a secure file sharing service by tptacek on Monday October 28, 2019 @10:58AM (#21377538)
It used to be; it isn't anymore. If you gave me the choice between giving up my company and ending browser Javascript cryptography, I'd have to think about it.
Re:Stealing private keys from a secure file sharing service by bresj on Monday October 28, 2019 @06:17AM (#21375658)
(disclaimer: I'm one of the creators of this very unnamed service)

The XSS-issue that was found by Tim was indeed a very fundamental problem which shouldn't have been in there. We are very happy he disclosed the information with us so we could fix it directly.

We hired a couple of professional hackers to audit our service but launched simultaneously. Biggest lesson for us: finish the audit first, launch afterwards :-)

Re:Stealing private keys from a secure file sharing service by say_it_as_it_is on Monday October 28, 2019 @07:02AM (#21375860)
I'm going to give your tech team the benefit of the doubt that it would have responded to information quickly if it had that information.

Lessons learned here: pay your pen testers quickly because their findings can affect the reputation of your company, don't launch without responding to audit results, don't bullshit people working in high tech industries about what was happening simultaneously, don't blame tech staff for business decisions