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Re:Show HN: pg_flame – flamegraph visualizations of PostgreS... by miohtama on Sunday October 27, 2019 @04:25PM (#21372149)
Could the workflow done so that you just copy-paste output from a PSQL shell to an online tool?
Re:Show HN: pg_flame – flamegraph visualizations of PostgreS... by ken on Sunday October 27, 2019 @04:56PM (#21372334)
Had this been implemented as a web service, half of the crowd would be asking for it to be an open-source program, so they could run it locally, for speed and flexibility and security. It was implemented as an open-source program, so half of the crowd are asking for it to be a web service for usability and convenience and aesthetics.

What I'm seeing is we've got two big platforms (web, CLI) and they both have some distinct advantages and some distinct disadvantages, and it's not easy for either one to cross the chasm and compete with the other one directly. We desperately need a new platform which combines what we like about both of these, and discards what we don't.

Until then, we're just going to keep implementing all end-user functionality twice, because by historical accident developers do most of their work in a DEC VT100 emulator, and end-users won't tolerate that.

Re:Show HN: pg_flame – flamegraph visualizations of PostgreS... by Xylakant on Sunday October 27, 2019 @05:17PM (#21372453)
> It was implemented as an open-source program, so half of the crowd are asking for it to be a web service for usability and convenience and aesthetics

I’ll prefer that any time of day. At least, this way someone can easily turn it into a web service. It generates HTML afaics.

Re:Show HN: pg_flame – flamegraph visualizations of PostgreS... by londons_explore on Sunday October 27, 2019 @06:25PM (#21372845)
A good number of github projects I find say "Install with npm install foo, or try it out online [here]"

The online version can host the exact same code from git master. For many projects, no hosting is even required, because the whole thing can run in a codepen-like playground.

Re:Show HN: pg_flame – flamegraph visualizations of PostgreS... by mgartner on Sunday October 27, 2019 @06:42PM (#21372928)
I built it as a CLI because of the reasons you mention, but also because I find that workflow most convenient for me and I didn’t want to need an internet connection.
Re:Show HN: pg_flame – flamegraph visualizations of PostgreS... by bflesch on Sunday October 27, 2019 @04:38PM (#21372226)
Yes, some tools such as the query analyzer by depesz [1] work by copy-pasting the EXPALIN ANALYZE output into your browser.

But IMHO the overall friction is still too large for such a central use case as query optimization done by a database admin.

The PostgreSQL team has been innovating and improving steadily, so I am confident these kind of workflows will be heavily optimized within the next couple of years.

[1] https://explain.depesz.com/

Re:Show HN: pg_flame – flamegraph visualizations of PostgreS... by rc_mob on Sunday October 27, 2019 @08:47PM (#21373470)
Mighty god odin bless you for that link. Thank u so much
Re:Show HN: pg_flame – flamegraph visualizations of PostgreS... by takeda on Sunday October 27, 2019 @11:28PM (#21374019)
that tool is a must if you plan improve, depesz (who is here on HN) also has good blog about postgres, he describes new upcoming features.

He also wrote a blog series about understanding explain plans: https://www.depesz.com/tag/unexplainable/ his explain tool + that information is really good starting point when trying to optimize queries.

Re:Show HN: pg_flame – flamegraph visualizations of PostgreS... by aeyes on Sunday October 27, 2019 @06:49PM (#21372973)
This is the best tool I know, works pasting only the JSON output: http://tatiyants.com/postgres-query-plan-visualization/

The information density the rendering gives me is way better than the flamegraph.

Re:Show HN: pg_flame – flamegraph visualizations of PostgreS... by daamien on Monday October 28, 2019 @09:44AM (#21376895)