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Re:Monty Hall Problem by kortilla on Friday October 25, 2019 @09:00PM (#21360804)
Nope. Monty still reveals a door even if your planned pick was correct.

The entire gain in odds is predicated on Monty being forced to reveal a bad choice after you have chosen.

Monty knowing ahead of time has absolutely no impact on the outcome.

Re:Monty Hall Problem by dllthomas on Friday October 25, 2019 @10:53PM (#21361386)
Knowing that Monty could not have revealed the car (vs happened not to) has an impact.

If you are objecting to how I described that, in terms of who knows what when, then you may be right and I probably could have been more precise.

But if you are disagreeing that scouts sent to investigate an area and return an answer (which this time happens to be negative) differs materially from the original question then you are wrong.

Re:Monty Hall Problem by kortilla on Monday October 28, 2019 @03:07AM (#21374878)
> Knowing that Monty could not have revealed the car (vs happened not to) has an impact.

Nope, it does not. The fact that he revealed a dud is what matters. The notion of him maybe revealing a car is senseless anyway because you would just then pick the car or the game would be over.

Re:Monty Hall Problem by dllthomas on Monday October 28, 2019 @11:58AM (#21378086)
> Nope, it does not. The fact that he revealed a dud is what matters.

That's simply wrong. This has been discussed countless times on this forum. The most effective way to proceed is for you to spend 5 minutes writing the simulation that you think will prove you right. When I was on the other side of this, that experience is what convinced me.

> The notion of him maybe revealing a car is senseless anyway because you would just then pick the car or the game would be over.

That's not a very strong objection - game shows are weird sometimes and could often apparently be easily improved.

But more importantly, it's an objection to the wrong thing. My point was that the presented "find the herds" problem differed from the game show. "That would have been a bullshit game show" is just confused.