Reflections on My Career at Microsoft

Re:Reflections on My Career at Microsoft by Someone1234 on Friday October 25, 2019 @03:57PM (#21358644)

I strongly agree on Office/Excel. Fantastic product suite (except maybe Outlook which is long in the tooth/essentially unimproved for the last ten years).

Visual Studio I'll slightly disagree on. I resent it. When VSCode, an electron application, can run lag/stutter/micro-freeze free and Visual Studio an IDE written in C++ cannot you know the codebase has become unmaintainable. This isn't a recent phenomenon either. This has been a nuisance in VS 2015, 17, and now 19 (16.4 Preview).

I'd love to switch to VSCode but the csprojec/C# support isn't there yet. I don't need a forms builder, server explorer, EDMX designer, test explorer, and all the other bells and whistles VS offers. I use VS strictly to write code (C# MVC/Web), run, and repeat. The refactoring tools/Intellisense/IntelliCode/QuickFixes are awesome but if I could trade them all for a lag free experience I would in a second.

I'm using a i7 (6th gen)/16 GB of RAM/SSD. I have no extensions except the built-in ones and Web Compiler/Bundler & Minifier. It doesn't help.

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Re:Reflections on My Career at Microsoft by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Friday October 25, 2019 @04:23PM (#21358889)

I'm also not a fan of VS. From my perspective it is an overly complicated bloated software. But I think that way about quite a lot of software.

However, the developers I've spoken with who love it tell me that it has some insanely good tooling that is just unmatched by anything else. I'm not even in a position to know what they're talking about or why it's so important to them, but that doesn't mean they don't know what they're talking about.

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Re:Reflections on My Career at Microsoft by user5994461 on Friday October 25, 2019 @08:18PM (#21360548)

For one, it has the only decent C++ debugger in existence.

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Re:Reflections on My Career at Microsoft by JohnFen on Friday October 25, 2019 @04:06PM (#21358718)

> Visual Studio I'll slightly disagree on. I resent it.

I agree. Visual Studio has a tendency to make me actively angry.

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Re:Reflections on My Career at Microsoft by umvi on Friday October 25, 2019 @07:24PM (#21360220)

Like when you double click a .cpp file intending to take a quick look in Notepad, and your whole computer grinds to a halt as it fires up VS

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Re:Reflections on My Career at Microsoft by minedwiz on Friday October 25, 2019 @04:59PM (#21359189)

What, you don't like your editor freezing when it tries to look up a symbol?

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Re:Reflections on My Career at Microsoft by kirse on Friday October 25, 2019 @10:34PM (#21361303)

Do you have AV interfering with any intermediate files, etc? I know for MVC/ASP.NET once I blacklisted the overbearing AV scans on a few of those directories all my woes disappeared.

For whatever reason I have the opposite experience, VScode input lag is painful at times and VSPro is minimal. As you know once you master an IDE, keyboard shortcuts and common keywords are typically being entered at 200wpm+ in bursts and its quite noticeable. Initial startup is definitely poor for both.

> I don't need a forms builder, server explorer, EDMX designer, test explorer, and all the other bells and whistles VS offers.

Same. CodeLens gets immediately disabled. Makes me wonder if there would be a way to hack up a stripped down "VS Lite".

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Re:Reflections on My Career at Microsoft by jtms on Saturday October 26, 2019 @12:38AM (#21361752)

Rider is really nice for c# - runs quite a bit better than vs

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