قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by Scarblac on Friday October 25, 2019 @05:12AM (#21353173)

When I was 10, the Dutch language manual for the Commodore 64 explained the pronunciation of "input#", but not that of just "input". So I (unfamiliar with foreign languages) thought that "input" was pronounced as we would in Dutch, while "input#" sounded like what I now know is English.

A class mate said his father said they were both pronounced as in English.

We had a fight over this in the playground, and I beat him. So I was right. "input" on the Commodore 64 is pronounced like in Dutch.

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Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by 317070 on Friday October 25, 2019 @06:41AM (#21353604)

My brain is parsing how a Dutch input would sound different in Dutch? "in de put" vs "input" sounds the same, no? What is different?

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Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by Scarblac on Friday October 25, 2019 @07:49AM (#21354018)

That's how I pronounced it. English input sounds more like Dutch "inpoet", the manual said input# was pronounced "inpoet-nummer".

(edit: long live the Internet, it's on page 135 of the manual here: https://docplayer.nl/11208014-Gebruikershandleiding-nederlan... . Nostalgia).

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Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by ward on Friday October 25, 2019 @07:47AM (#21354009)

There is definitely a difference. If you don't hear it, you might be saying one of them incorrectly? Wiktionary has audio files for input (English) and put (Dutch) if you need a comparison. In IPA the difference is ʊ vs ʏ. In terms of describing it to a Dutch person I would say the English u is somewhere between the Dutch u and the Dutch oe sounds.

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Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by Vinnl on Friday October 25, 2019 @07:53AM (#21354049)

In-poot vs in-puht, roughly.

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