News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by guggle on Friday October 25, 2019 @04:10AM (#21352860)
Missing the point... Everyone has to jump that barrier so that there's no barrier between us, which is much more important.
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by fastball on Friday October 25, 2019 @04:58AM (#21353106)
Eh, I think you're forgetting how much english grammar exists in stdlibs.

`string.toUppercase()` is super intuitive for an english speaker, but is nonsense that needs to be memorized for someone that can't speak english.

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by guggle on Friday October 25, 2019 @05:06AM (#21353148)
That's my point: everyone has to learn a bit of english, and that's good. It's good for everyone. It's a personal annoyance at first but with a bit of effort you turn it into a personal skill which then benefits to everyone.

Community > Individual

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by fastball on Friday October 25, 2019 @08:53AM (#21354455)
I'm not sure how an arabic speaker having to learn english is better than you having to learn arabic.
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by guggle on Friday October 25, 2019 @10:37AM (#21355368)
It's not, but I don't get your point.
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by fastball on Friday October 25, 2019 @12:06PM (#21356353)
Your underlying point seems to be that the world would be better if we all spoke one language.

I disagree, and to my mind programming is no different than linguistics in this regard.

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by guggle on Friday October 25, 2019 @06:10PM (#21359750)
Sorry, there is no underlying point.
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by fastball on Friday October 25, 2019 @08:50PM (#21360747)
You are going to need to more clearly explain how this

  That's my point: everyone has to learn a bit of english, and that's good.
is "good" then.
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by guggle on Saturday October 26, 2019 @10:59AM (#21364053)
Refer to my first post to find why.
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by Baeocystin on Friday October 25, 2019 @04:42AM (#21353012)
I think this point is vital, and yet completely lost in the current zeitgeist. Shared foundations matter. Without them, we can't communicate effectively.
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by jrh206 on Friday October 25, 2019 @04:12AM (#21352873)
Native English speakers don’t
Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by Majestic121 on Friday October 25, 2019 @04:19AM (#21352910)
Such is life, sometimes people have an unfair advantage.

But in this case, having a common language is still much more valuable than the unfairness that this common language is the mother tongue of some.

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by grenoire on Friday October 25, 2019 @04:19AM (#21352911)
This is such an odd exaggeration; the number of words you have to learn to type are just abysmally small. You don't have to know what the word 'integer' is to know how it works in your code.

I-N-T, three letters, this symbol means that the number does not have a fraction associated with it.

As for the code base and documentation? Well, wouldn't you rather a lingua franca as opposed to trying to Google Translate your way through comments?

Re:قلب: a non-ASCII programming language written in Arabic by Baeocystin on Friday October 25, 2019 @04:18AM (#21352902)
English keywords often have only the most tenuous links to their vernacular meaning. It's an unavoidable side effect of how different spoken and programming languages are. Compared to the difficulty of learning programming itself, remembering particular keywords is a tiny fraction of the mental burden.