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Re:Signal Technology Foundation is now open for donations by h91wka on Thursday October 24, 2019 @07:11PM (#21350123)
> but what's the alternative

Making phone and e-mail optional, and being a tier-1 identity. That's what Matrix does.

Re:Signal Technology Foundation is now open for donations by maksim-m on Thursday October 24, 2019 @07:17PM (#21350159)
Then Signal have to store your social graph on the server in plaintext. It's not what's expected from a private messenger.
Re:Signal Technology Foundation is now open for donations by dbrgn on Thursday October 24, 2019 @07:41PM (#21350311)
Storing the social graph is not required at all. For example, Threema creates a random alphanumeric identity that is linked to your public key (instead of linking the phone number directly to your public key). It's possible to optionally link your hashed phone number and/or e-mail to your identity. Finding your friends can be done by comparing hashes of the data in your address book with the hashes linked to the identities. Those address book hashes never need to be persisted anywhere on the server, an in-memory comparison is sufficient, then the data can be thrown away. If you wish to stay anonymous, just ask people to add you manually by typing in your identity (or by scanning your public key QR code, which also results in verification / trust).
Re:Signal Technology Foundation is now open for donations by h91wka on Friday October 25, 2019 @03:52AM (#21352777)
Could you elaborate? I don't follow your reasoning here.