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Re:Ring Gave Police Stats About Users Who Said No to Law Enf... by scarface74 on Thursday October 24, 2019 @05:51PM (#21349568)
The police have military weapons and the best equipment money can buy - especially SWAT. What good are “citizens” going to do against them?

That’s just like the militia running around in the woods training just in case they have to fight against the government. The same government that spends billions on weapons every year. If the government wants to impose martial law - like the nutcases including Chuck Norris thought they wanted to do a few years ago - the “militia” wasn’t going to be able to stop them.

Re:Ring Gave Police Stats About Users Who Said No to Law Enf... by falcolas on Thursday October 24, 2019 @07:16PM (#21350152)
Funny, it’s worked well in countries like Afghanistan. Don’t underestimate the power of a motivated and armed gorilla force that potentially exponentially outnumbers any “officially” sanctioned armed force.
Re:Ring Gave Police Stats About Users Who Said No to Law Enf... by dragonwriter on Thursday October 24, 2019 @07:21PM (#21350187)
> Funny, it’s worked well in countries like Afghanistan.

No, it didn't. The guerilla forces that were successful in Afghanistan has outside state sponsorship and supply and intervention by global or regional powers on their behalf (advisers, intelligence, special ops support, etc.) That's true of the Mujahideen fighting the USSR (backed by the USA, Pakistan, and others), and true of the Taliban/al-Qaeda associated groups which were fighting the internationally-recognized government (backed by Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.)

Re:Ring Gave Police Stats About Users Who Said No to Law Enf... by geggam on Thursday October 24, 2019 @07:58PM (#21350411)
You think a civil war in the US wouldnt have factions getting resources from every other country on the planet ?
Re:Ring Gave Police Stats About Users Who Said No to Law Enf... by dragonwriter on Thursday October 24, 2019 @08:16PM (#21350500)
> You think a civil war in the US wouldnt have factions getting resources from every other country on the planet

No, I think the pre-breakdown distribution of light civilian arms isn't how you win that fight.

Re:Ring Gave Police Stats About Users Who Said No to Law Enf... by geggam on Thursday October 24, 2019 @08:23PM (#21350536)
That wont ever happen. I know for a fact many many people have stashes of weapons. Typically they report it as a boating accident.

Keep in mind the 25 million ex military in the US know how to run that gear. Any conflict in this country will be a mess.

Re:Ring Gave Police Stats About Users Who Said No to Law Enf... by clarkmoody on Friday October 25, 2019 @01:17AM (#21352117)
This always comes up in the context of using guns to fight tyranny.

Your SWAT example is great: how many guys are on the SWAT team kicking the door to get one guy? 4? 6? 10?

What about an actual military operation going door to door? Squad size is 10? 20?

Government violence, when directed against you is nearly impossible to resist. But that's not the same as government violence directed against an armed populace.

History is flush with examples of failures of superior military power to subdue a population that actively resists.