Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy

Re:Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy by tobr on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @01:44AM (#21331440)

Tangentially related: GitHub has already dropped support for Mojave. The whole site is now broken in Safari 12 because it’s no longer the “current” version of the browser. Well, it is if you run Mojave, as you need to upgrade the entire system to get Safari 13.

I can understand not developing new features for Safari 12, but speaking of regressions, why would you go break things that used to work a week ago?

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Re:Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy by NobodyNada on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @01:50AM (#21331475)

Safari 13 is supported on Mojave. You can install it in System Preferences->Software Updates (there's a link that says "more updates" or "other updates" or something along those lines).

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Re:Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy by tobr on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @02:17AM (#21331626)

Thanks you, I did not know this. I looked into it a few days ago and Apple’s support page[1] seemed to tell me pretty clearly that I had to upgrade. I know see the small print that says:

> For some earlier versions of macOS, Safari might also be available separately from the Updates tab of the App Store.

1: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204416

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Re:Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy by tobr on Friday October 25, 2019 @04:53PM (#21359147)

I suppose no-one is reading this thread anymore, but for the record I was now able to check, and I do not have an option to download Safari, neither in the App Store nor after clicking the secret link in System Preferences.

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Re:Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy by cmroanirgo on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @04:01AM (#21332277)

I have Safari 13 on High Sierra

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Re:Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy by Mindwipe on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @05:07AM (#21332693)

Indeed (and unfortunately given the extension changes), but leaving an out of date browser is non-negotiable.

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Re:Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy by onion2k on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @02:23AM (#21331660)

GitHub has already dropped support for Mojave. The whole site is now broken in Safari 12 because it’s no longer the “current” version of the browser.

Is that a message Github have put out, or have they accidently rolled out a new feature that has a bug in Safari 12? That seems more likely to me. Github's browser support is usually very good, and it'd be incredibly disappointing if they've broken something intentionally.

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Re:Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy by tobr on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @02:09PM (#21337228)

I did not look into the details. There is a warning at the top of the page, and stuff that has worked before, like previewing markdown in comments, is broken.

Best guess: they removed a polyfill somewhere.

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Re:Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy by saagarjha on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @01:50AM (#21331474)

> Well, it is if you run Mojave, as you need to upgrade the entire system to get Safari 13.

You don't; Safari 13 runs on macOS Mojave (and macOS High Sierra, if you're still using that).

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Re:Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy by nihahs on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @02:46AM (#21331788)

I'm using High Sierra 10.13.6 (17G5019)and I don't have an update for Safari 13

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Re:Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy by Mindwipe on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @05:08AM (#21332699)

> I'm using High Sierra 10.13.6 (17G5019)and I don't have an update for Safari 13

I do (I won't upgrade past High Sierra on an older iMac as it breaks text rendering on it's non-retina screen so badly).

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Re:Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy by allenbrunson on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @11:53AM (#21335889)

i had this problem as well, the first time i tried to upgrade to mojave. but at some point, apple made it possible to re-enable sub-pixel anti-aliasing.

https://www.howtogeek.com/358596/how-to-fix-blurry-fonts-on-...

at this point, i don't think you even have to do that terminal thing anymore; you can just enable it in settings.

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Re:Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy by Mindwipe on Thursday October 24, 2019 @06:11AM (#21343083)

It doesn't replicate what we used to have, it's a half fix at best.

You also have to disable and re-enable it during the Catalina install or it really messes things up.

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Re:Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy by parasubvert on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @03:36AM (#21332105)

Check the Apple App Store updates section, I believe that houses the High Sierra update, whereas Mojave uses the system update.

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Re:Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy by nihahs on Thursday October 24, 2019 @06:01AM (#21343036)

Thanks a bunch!

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Re:Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy by pfranz on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @01:48AM (#21331465)

I agree that's a rather aggressive schedule for support, but I'm running Mojave 10.14.6 (18G103) and Safari Version 13.0.2 (14608.2.40.1.2) right now.

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Re:Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy by EasyTiger_ on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @08:19AM (#21333787)

This is complete disinformation yet is one of the top comments?

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Re:Why iOS 13 and Catalina Are So Buggy by tobr on Friday October 25, 2019 @05:00PM (#21359196)

Sorry, what is complete disinformation? I suppose I was wrong to say it isn’t possible to update to Safari 13 without updating the OS as people say they have done it. But I genuinely don’t have the option, after checking everywhere I’ve been instructed to.

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