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Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by bovermyer on Monday October 21, 2019 @03:47PM (#21316448)
Does Canada have a large Chinese immigrant population? I'm curious as to why these would be on campaign ads.
Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by throwaway_bad on Monday October 21, 2019 @04:33PM (#21316979)
Vancouver is special since it's popular destination for rich people from hong kong/china to hide their wealth. They buy up a lot of property:

> Chinese investors bought about 70% of free-standing houses on the west side of Vancouver in a six-month period

And 40% of the population is chinese:

> 40% of the residents of a large portion of Southeast Vancouver are Chinese.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Canadians_in_Greater_V...

Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by GordonS on Monday October 21, 2019 @06:05PM (#21317994)
> And 40% of the population is chinese:

>> 40% of the residents of a large portion of Southeast Vancouver are Chinese.

So... 40% of the population of Vancouver are not Chinese, as you seem to imply with your intro to a quote that specifically contradicts your implication?

Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by throwaway_bad on Monday October 21, 2019 @06:16PM (#21318103)
Yea I probably shouldn't have used a quote there. The number ranges from 20% to 50% depending on which part of vancouver you look at. Point is that they aren't a minority there.
Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by GordonS on Monday October 21, 2019 @06:35PM (#21318297)
Serious question, is 25% really not considered a minority?

As an average across Vancouver, are Chinese really 25%+ of the population?

Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by tempestn on Monday October 21, 2019 @07:34PM (#21318768)
Assuming your parent meant "not a small minority". I don't have numbers in front of me, but having lived in and near Vancouver most of my life, I wouldn't be surprised if close to that percentage had Chinese origins. Regardless, it's enough people that it's certainly worth candidates' time to consider them.
Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by allannienhuis on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @12:58AM (#21320504)
> The 2011 Census found the racial and ethnic makeup of Vancouver was:

European Canadian: 46.2% Chinese: 27.7% South Asian: 6% Filipino: 6% Southeast Asian: 3% Japanese: 1.7% Latin American: 1.6% Mixed visible minority: 1.5% Korean: 1.5% Aboriginal: 2% (1.3% First Nations, 0.6% Metis) West Asian: 1.2% Black: 1% Arab: 0.5%

http://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/vancouver-popu...

And some suburbs have a much higher percentage. Richmond (pop ~200k) has over 50% of it's population claim Chinese descent, and

> Nearly three quarters (74.1 per cent) of Richmondites identify with having some sort of Asian origin.

https://www.richmond-news.com/news/chinese-reach-majority-in...

[edit] - Which I think is awesome, in part because of the absolutely amazing food/restaurants we have here :)

Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by klyrs on Monday October 21, 2019 @06:25PM (#21318203)
Your question presupposes that folks of Chinese descent in Canada are immigrants. There's been a strong Chinese community in the area since before 1900. As a comparison, my great-great grandparents emigrated from Italy in the 1920s. It's quite typical for Canadians to retain their cultural identity and ancestral language post-immigration; the notable exception being indigenous peoples who were forced to assimilate. Where my family immigrated to the US and abandoned our language, I later immigrated to Canada, I was shocked to discover an Italian community where folks are still raising their kids to speak Italian after generations.
Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by jaclaz on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @11:03AM (#21324399)
Yes, but these kids learn some spoken Italian (actually very often in the '20's and until maybe the '70's some specific italian dialect) while they have education ad everyday experiences outside the family in either French or English.

So, besides the high percentage of Chinese people in Vancouver, isn't the point about how many of them can vote but cannot read English?

Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by bovermyer on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @08:54AM (#21323042)
This is even more surprising. Thank you for correcting my assumption, this is fascinating.
Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by avip on Monday October 21, 2019 @05:04PM (#21317337)
This post ain't about "Canada". It's about Metro Vancouver.

I think to say it has "a large Chinese immigrant population" would probably be an understatement? None-Chinese would be a minority in Richmond for example.

Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by ska on Monday October 21, 2019 @04:07PM (#21316693)
Yes, people of Chinese origin are the second largest single visible minority group in the country, at about 4.5% of population. South Asian origin is about 5.5%.
Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by AlanYx on Monday October 21, 2019 @04:35PM (#21317002)
These are all from the Vancouver greater metro area, which was 20.6% of Chinese ancestry based on 2016 census data. (Richmond, one of the cities in that metro area, is 53% Chinese ancestry, and Burnaby, where several of the examples are from, is 33.9% Chinese ancestry.)
Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by fbelzile on Monday October 21, 2019 @03:49PM (#21316472)
Yes, particularly in BC where the author is from.
Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by cgh on Monday October 21, 2019 @04:32PM (#21316969)
Richmond, BC is North America's most Asian city.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-radio-and-tv-18149316

Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by hangonhn on Monday October 21, 2019 @04:47PM (#21317155)
Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by bdamm on Monday October 21, 2019 @05:08PM (#21317382)
Richmond has entire malls where you will not find any English language. I do not believe that is the case in Cupertino. Also, Canada's approach to multiculturalism allows this to flourish, whereas America's "melting pot" almost makes minority heritage a quiet shame. Even though the US Census says Cupertino is "66% Asian" I just don't think it is at all the same as Richmond, which has large areas that really feel like you're in a Chinese city.
Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by iguy on Monday October 21, 2019 @05:18PM (#21317499)
The BBC article is probably using Asian to mean Chinese (or nearby), while Cupertino's statistics will count Indian (and nearby) in that total too.
Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by e12e on Monday October 21, 2019 @05:33PM (#21317682)
> count Indian (and nearby)

... So, they count Asian as Asian?

Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by cgh on Monday October 21, 2019 @06:44PM (#21318376)
Around these parts, "Asian" is shorthand for "East Asian", ie Chinese, etc. "South Asian" is sometimes used for the Indian subcontinent, although oddly enough around here people from India often refer to themselves as "EI", meaning "East Indian". I guess it's all contextual.

For sure, Richmond is the most East Asian city in North America.

Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by iakie on Monday October 21, 2019 @05:50PM (#21317853)
I understand what you mean, but when Vancouver locals say "asian", they really mean "east asian" (Chinese/Japanese/Korea). I live in Surrey, a Vancouver suburb, where ethnic Indian is about 30%-40% of population. The local newspaper often refers them as "South Asian community".

But I'm surprised that BBC use "Asian" to refer "East Asian". I'm under the impression that in UK, they use "Asian" to refer "South Asian".

Re:The invented Chinese names of the 2019 Canadian federal e... by GordonS on Monday October 21, 2019 @06:10PM (#21318049)
UK person here. Many (most?) people would say you were "Asian" of you were from anywhere in Asia apart from the Indian subcontinent.