Re:Google attempted to shut down a unionization meeting in Z...
by toomuchtodo on Monday October 21, 2019 @03:45PM
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Based on my experience, people sit on the sidelines because they're comfortable. People advocating for change should be polite first, and then not polite if politeness fails.
Re:Google attempted to shut down a unionization meeting in Z...
by AnimalMuppet on Monday October 21, 2019 @05:41PM
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So you plan to force me into accepting your position if I don't take it when you ask nicely? I'd say you're already not polite.
Re:Google attempted to shut down a unionization meeting in Z...
by toomuchtodo on Monday October 21, 2019 @07:04PM
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You already exist in a democratic system (assuming you're posting from the first world) where majority (mostly, some caveats) rules. This isn't any different. Everyone gets a vote, not everyone gets their way.
Re:Google attempted to shut down a unionization meeting in Z...
by AnimalMuppet on Monday October 21, 2019 @07:32PM
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Not quite. I live in a republic. The majority wins elections but still don't get to totally trample on the minority, because we have a limited government.
Now, a union election isn't a government election, so that doesn't totally apply. But, for example, the majority has decided to pass legislation that makes my current state a right-to-work state, so a union can't require me to be a member, even if they win the election.
Of course, unions could campaign to change that law. But that's a different set of elections they'd have to win...
Re:Google attempted to shut down a unionization meeting in Z...
by Kalium on Monday October 21, 2019 @03:47PM
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Is it at all possible, in any scenario, that people might have other reasons than purely personal comfort for sitting out a particular push for change?
Re:Google attempted to shut down a unionization meeting in Z...
by toomuchtodo on Monday October 21, 2019 @03:48PM
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It is possible, and I am receptive to enumeration of those reasons. One must be able to entertain both sides of an argument. Selfishly, it would help me strengthen my own argument.
Some people are leery about the possibility of their employer turning into a closed shop. I know I would not be happy if my employer suddenly turned into a union shop in a way that strongly affected me and gave me minimal choice in the matter.
I only ask that you consider why people might choose to sit on the sidelines.