Re:A cartoon intro to DNS over HTTPS (2018)
by KyleJ61782 on Sunday October 20, 2019 @10:47AM
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That was already a possibility even before all of this DoH publicity. Mozilla, etc. pushing DoH publicizes it's availability, but there was nothing in the past preventing malware from tunneling all sorts of traffic over HTTPS. DNS inspection isn't an end all, be all for malware security. It just gets the low hanging fruit.
Re:A cartoon intro to DNS over HTTPS (2018)
by throw0101a on Sunday October 20, 2019 @11:36AM
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There was a lot of low-hanging fruit given that most malware writers aren't going to set up all of this infrastructure for custom protocols.
And even when they did, creating various C&C servers, the lack of ESNI would allow for detecting activity once the daily domain creation algorithm was reverse-engineered:
* https://blog.malwarebytes.com/security-world/2016/12/explain...
Re:A cartoon intro to DNS over HTTPS (2018)
by peanut-walrus on Sunday October 20, 2019 @05:45PM
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Honestly, I don't see why people keep bringing this up. Malware has millions of ways of creating covert channels and you will never be able to block/detect all of them. It's also well within the capability of major DoH server operators to detect and shut down malware domains pretty fast.
Re:A cartoon intro to DNS over HTTPS (2018)
by akerl_ on Sunday October 20, 2019 @11:18AM
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This is possible regardless of whether Chrome/Firefox/etc deploy DoH support. In fact, it was possible before DoH at all: nothing mandated that malware use standard DNS requests on port 53.
Re:A cartoon intro to DNS over HTTPS (2018)
by throw0101a on Sunday October 20, 2019 @11:29AM
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> ... nothing mandated that malware use standard DNS requests on port 53.
Except using other ports would cause network monitoring software to throw red flags because of the "strange" traffic on non-standard ports.
And when malware gets on your network and starts using DoH to get around your home resolvers, what will you do?
* https://www.zdnet.com/article/first-ever-malware-strain-spot...
* https://www.zdnet.com/article/psixbot-malware-upgraded-with-...
As someone who works in IT, this is my problem with DoH.