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Italy has its own Hacker News

It's called 'Italian Startup Scene' and is a Facebook Group. Its activity level is incredible, and it was born just in October.

1000 users, hundreds of posts, thousands of comments.

Italy has its own Hacker News:

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_163895500288173

( 22 comments | 28 points | on HN )
Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by blue1 on Saturday January 22, 2011 @06:31AM (#2130297)
a Facebook group. What a sad choice.
Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by Facens on Saturday January 22, 2011 @06:32AM (#2130299)
Sad Choice? Ok, try to build a community of that level of activity and quality in three months. Let's talk about it when you'll have it done :D
Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by blue1 on Saturday January 22, 2011 @06:33AM (#2130301)
For some reason, I can't imagine PG opening a facebook group.
Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by Facens on Saturday January 22, 2011 @06:37AM (#2130304)
Why should someone care of what PG would do? Trying to build something effective is source of much more fun ;)
Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by blue1 on Saturday January 22, 2011 @06:51AM (#2130318)
Not that I am too interested in PG either, but I was referring to a certain view of things. Personally, I would never subscribe to facebook for any reason, no matter what shining things are being created inside it. I wish you good luck anyway.
Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by rick_2047 on Saturday January 22, 2011 @06:57AM (#2130321)
While agree fully with your point that we should not judge things by the medium they are using, I cannot fail to see how most of the comments violate the guidelines of HN (take my comments with a grain of salt, I used google translate to look at ~10 conversations).

1) There is no karma system so there is no ranking based on quality. You can say that the number of likes can be considered as karma, but that does not rank comments or links.

2) Though people there can be considered civil, not all of the comments are particularly interesting. I come to HN as 80% of the conversations make me go "OMG, I never thought of it that way". That didn't happen here. But again I just looked at a small sample.

3) I don't care how many members you have, you may have 10 or 10,000 the question is, how many of them are actively contributing at least mediocre quality content. Judging by the profile pics I see, it cannot by more than 40 and that too is a conservative count.

Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by Facens on Saturday January 22, 2011 @07:14AM (#2130333)
Why should we judge? We are simply amazed of how that community grew, and take my words about Hacker News with a grain of salt too, just kidding. We are so amazed that I thought Hacker News had to know it :P

About the rest, I really think that what happened and is happening with Italian Startup Scene can be an incredible case study (but we'll see what it's able reach). Facebook had a key role in this all, it acted as amplifier of each move.

Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by rick_2047 on Saturday January 22, 2011 @09:04AM (#2130406)
Why should we judge?

When you submit something to HN, it is judged, no matter what. HN people are analytical and like to break things and analyse the system.

Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by koichirose on Saturday January 22, 2011 @07:19AM (#2130340)
As always, Italians are not able to do something properly. And this is an Italian writing.

The level of Facebook addiction in this country is really scary. I see fellow engineers constantly on Facebook during free time, instead of actually building something.

Sad, really.

Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by Facens on Saturday January 22, 2011 @08:36AM (#2130378)
We shouldn't generalize. We can have different opinions about Facebook, but this all is about how Facebook can help a community to grow. If you are Italian, try to follow Italian Startup Scene for a while, and try to feel how high is the quality on it.

About 'building something', I can assure that it's the true spirit of the group, that's focused on doing things, much better than spending time to discuss ;)

Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by lachyg on Saturday January 22, 2011 @07:32AM (#2130345)
Why are people voting down the people who are saying that it is a great group? (I'm not a part of it. I'm Australian)
Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by rick_2047 on Saturday January 22, 2011 @09:05AM (#2130409)
Because they are not telling why this is a great group. There must be some basis on which there comments rest. If they cannot express that, better just upvote the story.
Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by sorbus on Saturday January 22, 2011 @10:58AM (#2130534)
Those three accounts are also all new (two are four hours old - as are the comments - and one is four days old), with no other activity than saying that it's a great group.
Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by fdicarlo on Saturday January 22, 2011 @12:36PM (#2130685)
I understand your concerns about the accounts (among other things, mine is newer) but I took the opportunity to sign up on HN (before I read only)to rate this story of a group to which I belong and that I find interesting. I wrote "Great Group!" because I find it useful, we talk about success stories, we exchanged views, opinions and demonstrates that the Startups Scene is not just in Silicon Valley
Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by rick_2047 on Saturday January 22, 2011 @12:48PM (#2130696)
sure! you find it useful. But why? If you would have explained all this instead of saying "Great Group!", you wouldn't have been downvoted.

You see, on HN we try to explain what we are saying and don't take much on face value. Also a two word comment is usually replaced by an upvote.

Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by fdicarlo on Saturday January 22, 2011 @01:50PM (#2130794)
Oh ok, sorry, I try to fix my reputation (or karma) ASAP :)
Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by rick_2047 on Saturday January 22, 2011 @02:14PM (#2130831)
Who said anything about your karma? I never look at anyone's karma before judging. What you wrote was crap and go downvoted. Thats all there is to it.
Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by stefanobernardi on Saturday January 22, 2011 @06:20AM (#2130290)
Thanks for the post Andrea :)
Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by Facens on Saturday January 22, 2011 @06:24AM (#2130293)
Let's conquer Hacker News, uhuhuu
Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by rgucci on Saturday January 22, 2011 @06:38AM (#2130307)
Point
Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by leoplct on Saturday January 22, 2011 @06:16AM (#2130284)
it's a great group!
Re:Italy has its own Hacker News by fdicarlo on Saturday January 22, 2011 @06:35AM (#2130302)
Great group!