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Re:The Pixel 4’s face unlock works on sleeping people by Marsymars on Friday October 18, 2019 @05:59PM (#21295399)
The solution here seems to be some credentialing solution that can neither be given away voluntarily nor taken by force. Is such a thing possible?
Re:The Pixel 4’s face unlock works on sleeping people by munk-a on Friday October 18, 2019 @06:09PM (#21295462)
I disagree, I don't think there is any need for proof of identity to not be voluntarily relinquishable.

I think relinquishable credentials are quite useful for a number of delegation related uses - but if they are relinquishable then they need to be expirable as well.

Re:The Pixel 4’s face unlock works on sleeping people by Marsymars on Friday October 18, 2019 @07:08PM (#21295776)
The guy with a knife won't ask for proof of identity that he knows you can't give up.
Re:The Pixel 4’s face unlock works on sleeping people by munk-a on Friday October 18, 2019 @07:48PM (#21295922)
If a guy with a knife wants my password I'm going to give it up and walk away alive, then try and recoup the loss of whatever I gave up... maybe I get the debit against an account reversed or purge recent account activity from social media.

There currently is nothing secret like that that I'd give up my life to protect, and I can't conceive of anything of such import existing... for those cases where the item is truly dangerous (like the nuclear football) then a guy with a knife being a threat is already a failure of security.

Re:The Pixel 4’s face unlock works on sleeping people by rolph on Friday October 18, 2019 @07:11PM (#21295788)
the guy with the knife is why fingerprints retinal or iris scans, and facial metrics shouldnt be used.

You may not be able to give these things but they can be taken, using that knife.

Re:The Pixel 4’s face unlock works on sleeping people by godelski on Saturday October 19, 2019 @06:07PM (#21301059)
You don't even have to be alive for those things either.
Re:The Pixel 4’s face unlock works on sleeping people by lonelappde on Friday October 18, 2019 @10:17PM (#21296395)
This is how iPhone works today. Apple bricks your phone if it is stolen, as a disincentive against theft.