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Re:Mark Hurd Has Died by biztos on Friday October 18, 2019 @03:36PM (#21294438)
> would we consider them balanced?

No, but I never heard anyone say "again, why" about Van Gogh. The why is self-evident in retrospect.

I wouldn't put my art before everything else in life, and I'm not saying Mark Hurd did, but I get that some people do and once in a while that results in an incredible gift to humanity.

Most of the time it doesn't, but I don't see how you get a Van Gogh without a lot of people giving an unhealthy amount of themselves to potentially boring, mediocre shit.

Re:Mark Hurd Has Died by OnlineGladiator on Friday October 18, 2019 @03:48PM (#21294521)
Van Gogh was utterly miserable though. I don't think he'd consider his life a success.

To frame it with someone I know much better, what about Nikola Tesla? Profoundly accomplished, objectively made enormous contributions to engineering that made huge improvements to the quality of life for a large chunk of humanity. He was utterly obsessed with the pursuit of knowledge and nothing else. On his death bed he regretted his work ethic and wished only to have ever known the touch of a woman.

We may be benefiting from their obsessions, but they aren't.

Re:Mark Hurd Has Died by biztos on Friday October 18, 2019 @09:00PM (#21296182)
Precisely! If we eliminate all misery we probably lose art in the deal. And then what?

Of course it’s possible to make smaller strides while living a more or less healthy life but I think for some (Tesla, Erdős) it just tips. But then again Erdős was maybe happy with his life...

Sticking with the scientists for a moment, maybe Feinman is exemplary. But are a bunch of Feinmanns enough?

Re:Mark Hurd Has Died by RJIb8RBYxzAMX9u on Friday October 18, 2019 @05:21PM (#21295188)
OTOH, Newton never married either, and apocryphally was proud that he's a virgin.

Even a genius may not be immune to FOMO.

Re:Mark Hurd Has Died by CamperBob2 on Friday October 18, 2019 @07:12PM (#21295796)
I wouldn't put my art before everything else in life

Which is why you're not Mark Hurd or Vincent Van Gogh.

Your family will (presumably) remember you fondly, and that's your reward. It will have to be enough. If it is, then good for you.

It's not what everybody else wants out of life, and that's OK.

Re:Mark Hurd Has Died by biztos on Friday October 18, 2019 @08:54PM (#21296163)
Well I’m not entirely without ambitions for immortality but yes, I assume I’ll never be that immortal and I’m cool with it.

Funny though I bet nobody who didn’t know him personally will remember Hurd in 50 years. Maybe a case study in B-school, but they don’t build monuments to folks who ran other people’s companies. Not that it isn’t crazy hard work, just that I don’t think a Hurd or a Cook is much concerned with their place in history.

Re:Mark Hurd Has Died by CamperBob2 on Friday October 18, 2019 @10:22PM (#21296411)
It's tough to assess just how great a manager he was, I'll definitely grant you that. He took over from Carly Fiorina at HP, and she wasn't exactly a tough act to follow (although her predecessors obviously were.) As long as he didn't set the building on fire, he was going to come out looking good after her tenure.

And certainly, nobody who worked at Oracle will be remembered as one of the all-time best-loved business figures.