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Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by dmitrybrant on Friday October 18, 2019 @12:24AM (#21288670)
I grew up in Russia, and like in many other Slavic cultures, mushroom foraging was a time-honored family affair. Some of my fondest memories are of picking mushrooms with my grandmother, who taught me all I know about identifying them. I still forage them all the time here in the States.

I'm sorry, but it continues to baffle me how someone can mistake an Amanita for a Coprinus (or Agaricus). To my eyes they're as different as a bottle of milk and a bottle of Drano. I suppose I can see how very young specimens of Amanita can resemble other varieties, but then you can follow a simple rule: if it looks remotely like a baby Amanita... don't take it! There are plenty of other mushrooms that are virtually unmistakable.

And then the idea of not double-checking what you foraged before cooking and eating it? That's... unconscionable. I've been foraging for 30+ years, and I still examine each individual specimen before putting it in the pot.

It's a shame because these kinds of stories create unnecessary fear in Americans about picking things from the wild, when there are so many great tastes and experiences right there at your fingertips.

Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by peanutz454 on Friday October 18, 2019 @01:37AM (#21288962)
> when there are so many great tastes and experiences right there at your fingertips.

As someone who has cooked with exactly one kind of mushroom (button) I find this intriguing. I thought all mushrooms taste more or less the same. I may have eaten something at a restaurant, but don't remember anything unique.

Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by AlanYx on Friday October 18, 2019 @10:08AM (#21291464)
Part of the reason some people think mushrooms taste the same is because many common supermarket mushrooms in the west do taste similar.

In particular, three of the most common western supermarket mushrooms (button, cremini, and portobello) are actually all the same species (Agaricus bisporus). They just look different.

Shiitakes are a different species and do taste different, but are somewhat related; at one point in the past they were classified in the agaricus genus.

Once you venture outside those, tastes and textures rapidly diverge. Truffles and morels are definitely memorable if you've never had them before.

Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by sharpneli on Friday October 18, 2019 @02:02AM (#21289037)
They taste wildly different. Just like not all fruits taste the same. Or all veggies. Or all meat.

My personal favourite is Chanterelle. Yellowfoot is pretty great too.

Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by greencore on Friday October 18, 2019 @08:19AM (#21290700)
It's the only kosher mushroom.
Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by mrguyorama on Friday October 18, 2019 @02:17PM (#21293772)
Any way you can expand on this? What would make a mushroom non-kosher?
Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by greencore on Monday October 21, 2019 @06:57AM (#21310841)
It has lowest change of having worms inside which are not kosher. Most other mushrooms needs checking if it's not worm-eaten.
Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by saiya-jin on Friday October 18, 2019 @04:51AM (#21289711)
Button are the most bland 'tasting' mushrooms, but you can find them in any shop because they are easy to grow in artificial conditions. There are so many quite strong tastes in the mushroom world, that some were/are used as spice. But its same as with forest fruit - those growing in wilderness have much stronger taste.

The strongest ones I would say are morel and of course truffles which are used for finest (and most expensive) delicacies, but many others which are more common are great too.

Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by gyuserbti on Friday October 18, 2019 @08:13AM (#21290655)
To experiment, find some chanterelles, lobster or porcini, and shitake mushrooms. These should be available fresh or dried in many large groceries in bigger cities. Make some dishes with each or try a taste.

Huge huge differences in mushrooms.

My favs are chanterelles, chicken of the woods, and candy caps (which have a distinct maple/sotolon flavor).

Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by Alex3917 on Friday October 18, 2019 @12:57AM (#21288811)
> It's a shame because these kinds of stories create unnecessary fear in Americans about picking things from the wild, when there are so many great tastes and experiences right there at your fingertips.

To be fair, until we have better tools to diagnose and treat the tick-borne illnesses that are prevalent in the US, it still isn't the safest hobby. This year I finally got sick of worrying about Powassan virus et al. so largely gave up spending time in the woods and just bought a road bike for outdoor time instead.

Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by SapporoChris on Friday October 18, 2019 @01:17AM (#21288881)
Odds are pretty low of getting a tick borne disease. I would assume they're even lower if you take precautions. About 60000 incidents a year. Powassan virus 33 incidents (https://www.cdc.gov/ticks/data-summary/index.html)

I would speculate that more than 33 people manage to kill them selves road biking each year, but I confess I'm just guessing.

Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by Alex3917 on Friday October 18, 2019 @01:33AM (#21288955)
60,000 reported cases, which means more like 600,000 estimated cases. You can definitely vastly lower the risk if you take all the right precautions, but most people I see don’t even have their pants tucked into their socks.
Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by HeyLaughingBoy on Friday October 18, 2019 @10:57PM (#21296505)
Maybe they understand how miniscule the risk is and can't be bothered?
Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by xenonite on Friday October 18, 2019 @03:22AM (#21289315)
And even if I ask a doctor to remove a tick he discourages a test of the dead tick, because „nothing would turn up anyways“. This supports a high rate of unnoticed cases.
Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by saiya-jin on Friday October 18, 2019 @04:45AM (#21289673)
That's... one of the worst excuses I ever heard to not go out into the wilderness. How can you ever sit in the car for example?
Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by HeyLaughingBoy on Friday October 18, 2019 @10:57PM (#21296508)
Pretty much!
Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by jjeaff on Friday October 18, 2019 @03:15AM (#21289293)
Depends on where in the US. Lyme's disease from ticks is very rare in some parts of the US.
Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by antisemiotic on Friday October 18, 2019 @01:42AM (#21288975)
I think it really helps to be taught by someone who knows what they're doing. Where I live (Poland) it's common to have this knowledge passed down in families. I wouldn't dare to pick up anything based on a picture in a book.
Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by felixyz on Friday October 18, 2019 @03:14AM (#21289292)
There are apps that lead you through a series of questions (pores/gills, cap shape, etc) to try to identify a mushroom. App + book + internet for anything that is remotely uncertain is a pretty good avenue if you don't have anyone to teach you. And yes, it's crucial to inspect every single mushroom before eating it and discard anything that one isn't 100% sure about.
Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by jtbayly on Friday October 18, 2019 @06:46AM (#21290206)
Have you ever used bird identification apps like that? I would never in a million years trust an app to tell me what is safe to eat. To learn? Yes. But not to eat.
Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by antisemiotic on Friday October 18, 2019 @03:35AM (#21289373)
Hm, I was already starting to think about some sort of portable chromatography kits to identify toxins in the field, but I guess your solution works too.
Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by mda on Friday October 18, 2019 @06:45AM (#21290199)
Agaricus could be confused with white amanitas if they miss the capsule or the annulus (capsule is the biggest danger sign). Or a parasol with a A. pantherina. TBH, even the distinct Coprinus comatus could be confused by a beginner to another ink cap that could be really nasty if eaten with alcohol. I guess mushroom hunting requires a lot of common sense, perception and experience, which a lot of people lacks to some degree.
Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by greencore on Friday October 18, 2019 @08:19AM (#21290692)
Agree. I usually avoid picking Russula because sometimes Amanita may lose their crown and look like Russula.
Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by wiremaus on Friday October 18, 2019 @02:18AM (#21289085)
Quite a few delicious and safe Amanita spp. out there. It's a genus to be careful in, but there are a number of species that can be eaten with a little experience. Amanita calyptroderma and A. vaginata for instance.
Re:I Survived the “Destroying Angel” (2006) by sizzle on Friday October 18, 2019 @08:52PM (#21296157)
I found myself foraging for these bright orange lobster mushrooms off a scenic trailhead in Oregon.

They were quite delicious!