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Re:Google chief: I'd disclose smart speakers before guests e... by agoodpr838 on Thursday October 17, 2019 @05:08PM (#21286378)
The privacy risk is not the same and the convenience to mitigate is not there

I can leave my phone at home when I go out. In another room. Shut it off. I do all of these things quite regularly.

Do I go around and disable numerous smarthome gadgets for privacy or stick with my oh so terrible life without them? Bonus! I can avoid awkward conversations with my guests.

People buy products because we feel they help us be better. There’s little real utility towards bettering myself with a colorful, and extra power sucking, thermostat at home all the time.

Re:Google chief: I'd disclose smart speakers before guests e... by AJ007 on Thursday October 17, 2019 @06:25PM (#21286900)
Given how outdated most Android phones are, they are substantially more of a security risk than a Nest (of some sort), Alexa, or Apple smart speaker. With Google your facing someone substantially fucking up, a search warrant, or compromised account. A random compromised Android phone, just about anything or anyone and the only giveaway is going to be the battery draining faster than expected.
Re:Google chief: I'd disclose smart speakers before guests e... by postalrat on Thursday October 17, 2019 @06:28PM (#21286923)
How are you sure you can turn it off? Are you removing the batteries?

I don't understand how the risk is anything but greater with a phone.

Re:Google chief: I'd disclose smart speakers before guests e... by celeritascelery on Friday October 18, 2019 @08:52PM (#21296155)
Have you ever seen a verified case of a smartphone operating while off? I have only seen rumors. If you are going to be that paranoid then how do you know removing batteries turns it off? Maybe there is a Secret battery for spying on people.