top -- reddit.com

yah I'm a dork

wouldn't top be alexa.com (etc.), or internet storm center? ;)

"pine became Gmail"

Yeah. Google invented online email. Seriously, does google pay for fanboyism by the pound or what? Geez.

Having not lived the days of yore, I'm guessing that there were inferior mail clients that came before pine that are now long-forgotten because pine was better. Gmail is a similarly superior online email; it may not be the first, but it's the best, and that's all anyone remembers.

Yes, ecuzzillo said exactly what I meant. I also remember reading that Gmail consciously adopted Pine keyboard shortcuts (though I may have that wrong), which is why I made the direct link. Gmail seems like a very UNIX-y web mail client, where Hotmail, say, was not.

-Marc Hedlund

A Google employee and Pine contributer (Ryan Barrett) compared the two and gave his thoughts on the matter:

http://snarfed.org/space/gmail%20vs%20pine

Well, elm came before pine, and the mailreader I use now, mutt, is elm-descended.

I want fdisk for the internet.