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Re:Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of home... by shadowgovt on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @12:25PM (#21272169)
L.A. is a place that respects the value of a creative solution.

If one cannot force the homeless to leave, how does one positively incentivize people to stop living in the street?

Re:Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of home... by crooked-v on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @12:29PM (#21272219)
'Just give them housing' seems to work pretty well. https://nationswell.com/one-state-track-become-first-end-hom...
Re:Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of home... by pnw_hazor on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @12:33PM (#21272278)
"It’s time to come clean. The unrealistic narrative that Utah has ended homelessness by giving out homes is not helping."

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/think-utah-solved-homeles_b_9...

Re:Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of home... by DuskStar on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @12:33PM (#21272276)
IIRC that actually hasn't worked too well for Utah in recent years.
Re:Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of home... by crooked-v on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @12:39PM (#21272356)
Tragedy of the commons is a major factor here. Any city that looks 'homeless friendly' will get people shipped to it from other cities, sometimes as part of explicit 'bus ticket' programs.

Really solving this will take work at the national level. There's more than enough wealth around to fund it, given how much goes into the pockets of opioid manufacturers alone.

Re:Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of home... by seanmcdirmid on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @01:05PM (#21272697)
Homeless people are also fairly mobile, it doesn’t take that much to come up with a $50 bus ticket even if they don’t bother hopping freight cars anymore. Hell, many can even scrounge up enough for one way tickets to Hawaii (...and Hawaii will often take care of the ticket back).
Re:Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of home... by AtlasBarfed on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @12:29PM (#21272237)
Maybe.... give them a place to stay...

OFF the street?

Of course all urban centers are so starved of entry level housing that anything good enough to minimally get a homeless person off the street (bathroom, place to sleep, maybe kitchenette) would also be swamped by everyone from the poor and working, college students, immigrants, etc.

Suppressing this housing is all done in the name of maintaining and increasing housing values for the affluent. If you increase the supply of housing, the value of housing drops, and white people don't want that.

Re:Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of home... by sweeneyrod on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @12:43PM (#21272421)
> Of course all urban centers are so starved of entry level housing that anything good enough to minimally get a homeless person off the street (bathroom, place to sleep, maybe kitchenette) would also be swamped by everyone from the poor and working, college students, immigrants, etc.

I doubt it; one of the reasons that homelessness is a difficult problem is that some homeless people are very unpleasant to live with, which means other homeless people prefer to remain on the street rather than share housing with them.

Re:Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of home... by AtlasBarfed on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @03:08PM (#21274177)
I'm talking about basically a 10x10 room for privacy for each, uh, non-inmate. It sounds like prison though.
Re:Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of home... by lotsofpulp on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @12:37PM (#21272333)
It’s also done to keep people who can only afford lower priced housing out.
Re:Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of home... by AtlasBarfed on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @03:07PM (#21274170)
Certainly encampments are a bigger eyesore/property value killer than making some habitable closets for them?
Re:Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of home... by bwanab on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @12:29PM (#21272226)
Does one really need to be incentivized to stop living on the street? I would think the incentives are obvious. The problem is the means.
Re:Boise is why L.A. can’t legally clear its streets of home... by iamdbtoo on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @12:41PM (#21272382)
This is not always the case. Some of these people cannot function in regular society and actually find living on the streets to be easier.