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Re:Google Announces Pixel 4 by fetus8 on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @12:02PM (#21259940)
Facial Unlock does work in the dark because it uses IR, and not just a camera.
Re:Google Announces Pixel 4 by Hamuko on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @12:18PM (#21260163)
As long as it's a proper implementation of a face unlock. When the iPhone X came out, OnePlus was quick to jump on the bandwagon and start advertising their new face unlock, which was completely reliant on the front-facing camera.
Re:Google Announces Pixel 4 by angry_octet on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @12:14PM (#21260113)
Which tells you it can be tricked with just the IR picture.
Re:Google Announces Pixel 4 by fetus8 on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @12:19PM (#21260183)
Mind explaining what an IR picture is?

Facial Unlocking isn't just using image recognition. Face ID, specifically, using point mapping across a face, creating a 3D map of the face and reference points to unlock the device. I don't think a flat 2D image, even with IR photography, could trick a system like this.

A Hollywood grade prop mask of someone's face might be able to trick it, but that seems like a huge outlier.

Re:Google Announces Pixel 4 by dkonofalski on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @12:44PM (#21260506)
Even a hollywood mask wouldn't trick it unless it had some way to simulate the temperatures across the face. IR determines the points and the relative temperature to make sure the face is live.
Re:Google Announces Pixel 4 by angry_octet on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @05:46PM (#21264237)
I mean that it is not including features from the visible spectrum when making its decision, only IR & time of flight (depth). IR makes it easy to track the eyes (basically all eye tracking systems use IR) but misses skin tone cues.

A prop mask is one approach, but adversarial machine learning techniques might be even more effective, especially if you can study the adaption to a particular face.