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Re:The Necessity of Nuclear by didbfkf on Sunday October 13, 2019 @08:56PM (#21244420)
Authorities lie, seagulls get cancers too, and there are superfund everywhere you find a nuclear industry.

Temporary storage on site is a very bad idea. Leaks, non uniform site security, drums that were designed for a few decades now being called to serve for a century.

Either have long term storage, or drop nuclear. There’s no in between

Re:The Necessity of Nuclear by roenxi on Sunday October 13, 2019 @09:01PM (#21244444)
> Authorities lie, seagulls get cancers too, and there are superfund everywhere you find a nuclear industry.

So based on information that you don't have but assume exists there is a problem? There is actual evidence of known problems that nuclear solves. Like air pollution from coal.

I don't want to sound unsympathetic, the government does lie and I also subscribe to a couple of out-there conspiracy theories. It is just there is a lot of evidence that the nuclear threat is way overblown.

> Either have long term storage, or drop nuclear. There’s no in between

You could move them in to new decade-long storage once a decade. As mentioned, those are small ponds. The world is not made up of absolutes.

Re:The Necessity of Nuclear by NeedMoreTea on Monday October 14, 2019 @12:32AM (#21245281)
We do have evidence, and we have a distinct pattern of behaviour from the many public inquiries and investigations into the standard of management at Seascale / Windscale / Sellafield / THORP.

To be glib, that's why there were so many renamings. To bury the inept history.

Re:The Necessity of Nuclear by petre on Sunday October 13, 2019 @11:41PM (#21245102)
> Either have long term storage, or drop nuclear. There’s no in between

And burn coal instead, spread heavy metals and CO2 around and slowly poison everyone.

That is the alternative, we saw it in Japan after the Fukushima accident. Oh, btw, Tepco has announced it will discharge further nuclear contaminated water in the ocean as they ran out of space to store it.

Re:The Necessity of Nuclear by MertsA on Monday October 14, 2019 @12:38AM (#21245300)
>spread heavy metals

Like the trace amounts of Uranium in coal. And don't forget the Radon that comes up with natural gas either. For added fun, Radon is a noble gas so good luck economically removing it as opposed to just venting it all into the atmosphere.

Re:The Necessity of Nuclear by petre on Monday October 14, 2019 @02:18AM (#21245654)
The main concern are arsenic and mercury which accumulate in bottom feeding sea critters some of which we eat (mainly shellfish and shrimp). The uptake of uranium are thorium in marine species is rather low, but yes, burning coal also spreads radiation. Some of the byproducts of nuclear fission (I131, Sr90) are more dangerous because they tend to stick around in our bodies. Uranium and thorium get excreted but the first one is also toxic.

Of the two Radon isotopes, one has a half life of 55 seconds, the other 2.5 days. The main problem are its decay products: Pb210, Bi210 and Po210. It's better to vent it off into the atmosphere than to let it accumulate in mines and basements.

Re:The Necessity of Nuclear by MertsA on Monday October 14, 2019 @12:36AM (#21245291)
Care to point out a couple of those superfund sites? The only ones I'm even familiar with are the Hanford site and Savannah River which were military sites producing nuclear material for nuclear bombs and ICBMs. Hardly comparable to the limited processing that goes into fuel preparation for nuclear power plants, especially considering that fresh fuel is only weakly radioactive and requires no shielding at all between the fuel and the technicians wearing dosimeters all the time.