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Re:Flash Is Responsible for the Internet's Most Creative Era by wavefunction on Sunday October 13, 2019 @05:24PM (#21243153)
I feel like you can do pretty much everything with HTML5 and JavaScript that you could with Flash and ActionScript. The IDE for Flash had some nice UI abstractions but there's no reason that couldn't happen in a web IDE in 2019. Distributing your website like a flash file/app as a binary is one missing feature I suppose?
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Re:Flash Is Responsible for the Internet's Most Creative Era by excessive on Sunday October 13, 2019 @05:32PM (#21243208)
As consumers, most people probably only care about what modern browsers can do. As a developer, the mechanisms become front and center. Modern web development is a Rube Goldberg kluge of things glued together with duct tape. Flash was much more coherent and imposed less cognitive burden of tying it altogether.
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Re:Flash Is Responsible for the Internet's Most Creative Era by wavefunction on Sunday October 13, 2019 @07:00PM (#21243839)
Are you intending to reply to me? I agree with you to a certain extent regarding NPM madness.
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Re:Flash Is Responsible for the Internet's Most Creative Era by kizer on Sunday October 13, 2019 @09:33PM (#21244596)
Not just NPM - the "web" is a diverse set of APIs with various peculiarities. It's not inviting to an artist with little to no programming experience (and even with the potential to learn). That was the advantage/disadvantage of flash - closed system, one (major) IDE, one language/standard library.
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Re:Flash Is Responsible for the Internet's Most Creative Era by giancarlostoro on Sunday October 13, 2019 @05:52PM (#21243364)
> Distributing your website like a flash file/app as a binary is one missing feature I suppose?

Lots of solutions to this:

* SickBeard ran a local web server and the UI ran in your browser.

* Electron / Nwjs

* Whatever Microsoft has planned for Electron (Electron Runtime?)

* That Microsoft compiled HTML format thats defunct mostly (chtml).

As much as everyone hates on the web. Its a consistent UI platform. Not 100% consistent every single time but you can get pretty darn close.

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Re:Flash Is Responsible for the Internet's Most Creative Era by wavefunction on Sunday October 13, 2019 @06:58PM (#21243830)
Naw I mean you could burn a Flash project to a CD ROM and it would auto-play when your grandma stuck it in the "coffee holder."
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Re:Flash Is Responsible for the Internet's Most Creative Era by Filligree on Sunday October 13, 2019 @05:33PM (#21243211)
You can just about do it, but it takes far more CPU time. What happened to efficiency?
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Re:Flash Is Responsible for the Internet's Most Creative Era by wavefunction on Sunday October 13, 2019 @06:59PM (#21243838)
I'd need to see some performance metrics to come to that conclusion. "Bloated Flash site loading with a progress indicator for a few seconds" was pretty common and a huge complaint about Flash and its use on the web.
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