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Re:Restricting Manhattan’s 14th street to buses has been a s... by adrr on Sunday October 13, 2019 @04:16PM (#21242674)
This is a better strategy than trying to put bike lanes on every street. Drivers don't pay attention enough. Risk of getting doored or having some car turn right without checking their blindspot/mirrors is too high.
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Re:Restricting Manhattan’s 14th street to buses has been a s... by mgleason_3 on Sunday October 13, 2019 @05:14PM (#21243086)
Vancouver took their 2-lane each way (4 total) roads and dedicated the outer lane to bikes. They protected that lane from car with planters. So, it can definitely be done.

That said, IDK if it’s a resounding success. There may be measures by which it is, I’m just not aware.

For example, I found it difficult as a pedestrian and saw a few collisions and lots of near misses between bikes and pedestrians. The planters create a nice protected area which feels like it’s safe for walking and crossing. But the bikes were moving quickly and quite unyielding in their perceived right-of-way.

When we were there, there was definitely other challenges. There were terrible traffic jams - especially going into the city. It seems like a lot of traffic needs to go through the city to get somewhere else. It didn’t seem like they had adequate public transportation.

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Re:Restricting Manhattan’s 14th street to buses has been a s... by Scoundreller on Sunday October 13, 2019 @05:42PM (#21243291)
> Vancouver took their 2-lane each way (4 total) roads and dedicated the outer lane to bikes. They protected that lane from car with planters. So, it can definitely be done.

Makes snowplowing a mess. NYC can’t just shutdown like Vancouver does every time it snows :)

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Re:Restricting Manhattan’s 14th street to buses has been a s... by jrockway on Sunday October 13, 2019 @06:14PM (#21243523)
It is street parking that ruins winter for bikes. The snow plows can't get to the edge of the road, so the bike lane which marks the parking/plowable road area suffers.

I don't think it's a big deal because we don't really get a lot of snow in NYC. A plan to improve the 50 weeks a year without snow on the ground is better than not doing the plan because a couple weeks in February will be miserable.

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Re:Restricting Manhattan’s 14th street to buses has been a s... by Symbiote on Monday October 14, 2019 @04:38AM (#21246208)
Here in Copenhagen, the city has narrow versions of the usual equipment for clearing bike lanes. The bike lanes are cleared before the car lanes!

http://www.copenhagenize.com/2010/12/ultimate-bike-lane-snow...

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Re:Restricting Manhattan’s 14th street to buses has been a s... by Scoundreller on Sunday October 13, 2019 @09:45PM (#21244643)
About 20-40 inches per year in NYC, while 12 is lucky in a year in Vancouver. And is prone to melting when the sun comes out.

The Pacific moderates a lot better than the Atlantic!

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Re:Restricting Manhattan’s 14th street to buses has been a s... by adrianN on Monday October 14, 2019 @12:51AM (#21245342)
Dooring and people having to check their blind spots is a sign of bad bike lanes.
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