That's probably best discussed on a platform that doesn't have ties to Epstein. He was their largest source of funding for years:
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/jeffrey-ep...
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/jeffrey-ep...
He's talking about our transition from orange to green on the Spiral Dynamics model of psychological / spiritual evolution.