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Re:Exposure to air pollution is linked to an increase in vio... by BurningFrog on Friday October 11, 2019 @09:59AM (#21224405)
Well, I think it's a fact¹ that a large majority of "science" stories that go viral turn out to be wrong.

So the rational approach to them is "what might be wrong with this one?".

¹ Citation Missing

Re:Exposure to air pollution is linked to an increase in vio... by josephdviviano on Friday October 11, 2019 @11:51AM (#21225532)
If you want to avoid this, just read the paper.

I don't understand why technical people waste their time complaining about this stuff. We all have the acumen to read, understand, and debate research.

Re:Exposure to air pollution is linked to an increase in vio... by gwd on Friday October 11, 2019 @12:14PM (#21225758)
> I don't understand why technical people waste their time complaining about this stuff. We all have the acumen to read, understand, and debate research.

But to be honest, the reason I read the comments (at least on a place like HN) is to get the key insight / failure without reading the article.

Re:Exposure to air pollution is linked to an increase in vio... by josephdviviano on Friday October 11, 2019 @01:20PM (#21226433)
When scientists disagree among themselves, it's hard to use this strategy.
Re:Exposure to air pollution is linked to an increase in vio... by BurningFrog on Friday October 11, 2019 @01:04PM (#21226248)
Reading scientific papers uses less time than complaining about them?

Is there a study to back that up? :)

Re:Exposure to air pollution is linked to an increase in vio... by moultano on Friday October 11, 2019 @12:21PM (#21225812)
It's paywalled. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00950...

If I had access, I'd try to dig into more depth into how they approached decoupling this from temperature, because that seems like a really strong confounder. I'm also a bit curious about the underlying physical cause of the change in pollution levels, (weekends? summertime?) because that seems like it could also be a confounding common cause.

Alas, I'm not interested in paying $35 for the paper.

Re:Exposure to air pollution is linked to an increase in vio... by imagin8or on Friday October 11, 2019 @12:36PM (#21225963)
Re:Exposure to air pollution is linked to an increase in vio... by moultano on Friday October 11, 2019 @02:21PM (#21226986)
Thanks!
Re:Exposure to air pollution is linked to an increase in vio... by anigbrowl on Friday October 11, 2019 @05:26PM (#21228634)
Just use SciHub like everyone else. Even if it's not up on SciHub the Supplementary MAterials are usually available free.
Re:Exposure to air pollution is linked to an increase in vio... by chibg10 on Friday October 11, 2019 @12:14PM (#21225752)
Because there’s only 24 hours a day? Because my tax dollars are often funding this research?

Why not take this farther and just do the research myself, eh?

Re:Exposure to air pollution is linked to an increase in vio... by tekmate on Friday October 11, 2019 @10:08AM (#21224495)
from my experience, when science stories that go viral turn out to be wrong it's some secondhand reporting by people misunderstanding or misrepresenting the actual firsthand report
Re:Exposure to air pollution is linked to an increase in vio... by BurningFrog on Friday October 11, 2019 @10:43AM (#21224827)
That's definitely also a factor.
Re:Exposure to air pollution is linked to an increase in vio... by kortilla on Friday October 11, 2019 @10:19AM (#21224586)
The replication crisis says otherwise.
Re:Exposure to air pollution is linked to an increase in vio... by dwaltrip on Friday October 11, 2019 @01:51PM (#21226710)
Both of those phenomenona are common. They aren't mutually exclusive.
Re:Exposure to air pollution is linked to an increase in vio... by jsight on Friday October 11, 2019 @11:08AM (#21225089)
I tend to agree, and this article is no different. Articles often report the underlying research in misleading ways.
Re:Exposure to air pollution is linked to an increase in vio... by johnfactorial on Friday October 11, 2019 @06:16PM (#21228990)
The rational approach to all peer review is to assume there's a flaw and look for it. Quite a few commenters seem bothered by this reflexive reaction to published research, when the entire point of publishing research is to have it picked apart by critical thinkers everywhere.