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Re:Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events by dpifke on Friday October 11, 2019 @09:05AM (#21223931)
How about enabling DNS-over-HTTPS, which routes your entire browsing history to a third party, based on selections labelled "OK, Got It" and "Disable Protection":

https://github.com/mozilla/doh-rollout/issues/125

Don't get me wrong, DoH is great if you have a shady ISP. But it should be opt-in, not opt-out, since those of us who don't have shady ISPs don't want all our DNS queries centralized in the same place, to be scooped up with just one FISA warrant. And dark patterns like this are a pox on the web and Mozilla shouldn't be perpetuating them.

Re:Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events by cptskippy on Friday October 11, 2019 @10:57AM (#21224985)
Your complaint is about a Web Extension Experiment that they're currently testing and not a feature they have shipped in the browser. It seems like this isn't shady at all, but rather they're testing something and soliciting feedback. You provided some and they responded that they plan to write a blog post about it.

So what's shady here? That the process is working?

Re:Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events by dpifke on Friday October 11, 2019 @12:27PM (#21225879)
My understanding is that this is how it's being rolled out, eventually to 100% of users:

https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2019/09/06/whats-nex...

Re:Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events by farisjarrah on Friday October 11, 2019 @12:59PM (#21226201)
I still don't think its shady. Mozilla have publicly stated that its possible to change the DOH provider, and furthermore they have clearly laid out their requirements for Cloudflare to participate in this experiment. This seems like a good compromise in order to force other providers to start encrypting dns requests.
Re:Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events by dangerface on Friday October 11, 2019 @10:50AM (#21224915)
> since those of us who don't have shady ISPs don't want all our DNS queries centralized

If you live in the US or EU your ISP logs dns queries and sells them on [0] encryption is the only solution.

[0] https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2019/04/big-uk-broadba...

Re:Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events by shadowgovt on Friday October 11, 2019 @01:04PM (#21226245)
"OK, Got It" and "Disable Protection" is pretty accurate.

It's inconvenient, but it turns out the "open, anonymous" web has huge trust issues that bad actors use to exploit and attack the unknowing. Some of that is most readily solved by nudging users to trusted third-parties.

You can have issue with whether that third party should be trusted, but the larger issue is that the user has to trust some third party for DNS to work at all, and most don't even think twice about that question.

> since those of us who don't have shady ISPs don't want all our DNS queries centralized

If you don't hae a shady ISP, disable protection. You're already protected by your ISP not being shady, right? ;) The average user has no idea if they should trust their ISP's DNS.

Re:Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events by magashna on Friday October 11, 2019 @12:00PM (#21225616)
For their release in the US it's assumed that your ISP is shady.