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Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by jw1224 on Thursday October 10, 2019 @04:16AM (#21212096)
Can you give a few examples of ways in which a US citizen is more free than I, a UK citizen, am?
Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by ekianjo on Thursday October 10, 2019 @05:38AM (#21212542)
Freedom of expression has a much stronger protection status in the US than in the UK. That is one example.
Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by jashmatthews on Thursday October 10, 2019 @07:35AM (#21213244)
Protections for freedom of expression as an employee are much higher in the UK. Freedom only applies in the USA if you can afford to exercise it and not get let go via at will employment
Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by diffeomorphism on Thursday October 10, 2019 @06:00AM (#21212660)
If that is just one example, what is another one?
Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by ekianjo on Thursday October 10, 2019 @08:25AM (#21213616)
Americans can vote directly for their legislators while in the UK the House of Lords is largely appointed. Again, just another example.
Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by FabHK on Thursday October 10, 2019 @06:16AM (#21212749)
* In the USA, you are free to deny the holocaust. In Germany and the UK, you are not.

* In the USA, if you're a health insurer, you are free to reject customers you don't like. In Europe, you're not. (Those rejected customers, in turn, are free to cover their own health expenses or die - their free choice).

* In the USA, you're free to buy guns. In Europe, you're not.

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* In the US, you're free to drink a beer at the age of 20. In Europe, you're not. Ah, no, just kidding, it's the other way around.

* In California, you can have a beer after 2 am. Ah, who am I kidding, of course you can't.

Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by mnw21cam on Thursday October 10, 2019 @08:06AM (#21213464)
In the UK, you are free to cross the road wherever you want (except the motorway). In the USA, in many states, you can't. Which still boggles my mind.
Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by kmlx on Thursday October 10, 2019 @11:31AM (#21215674)
nice find. i simply love this small, but very deep, quality of life feature of living in the UK.
Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by neves on Thursday October 10, 2019 @10:14AM (#21214708)
Very good :-)

In US you are free of people drinking a cold beer in sunny days in parks or in the beaches

Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by vel0city on Thursday October 10, 2019 @11:52AM (#21215938)
I can buy a kitchen knife without ending up on a government registry.

I can own a radio or television capable of receiving broadcasts without having to pay a license and register it with the government.

Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by ajscanlan on Friday October 11, 2019 @09:57AM (#21224391)
Wait, what country puts you on a government registry for buying a kitchen knife?
Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by refurb on Thursday October 10, 2019 @08:43AM (#21213749)
That’s an easy one.

I can say pretty much anything and not have the gov’t come after me for it.

Say something distasteful about a minority group in the UK and you’ll be punished for it.

Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by obituary_latte on Thursday October 10, 2019 @04:35AM (#21212212)
I don’t think they said “more free than UK citizens”. Although, to be fair, US doesn’t have quite as intrusive CCTV. And I thought gun laws were pretty restrictive in UK? But “most ways” is probably a reach, and there are certainly things UK does do much better.

Edit: would appreciate feedback if my comment is not constructive or could be improved in some way.

Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by the_mitsuhiko on Thursday October 10, 2019 @04:45AM (#21212265)
For me as a European "gun laws were pretty restrictive in UK" for me means freedom more than access to guns does. I quite value the freedom of not having to worry about guns.
Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by vinay427 on Thursday October 10, 2019 @04:47AM (#21212281)
That's a very convoluted definition of freedom. I think there are many other things to call that ("sensible" or "sane" come to mind...) but it's objectively less free, legally/on paper as I stated.
Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by the_mitsuhiko on Thursday October 10, 2019 @04:56AM (#21212325)
By that definition any law stands in the way of freedom. You're not allowed to kill people in the US, so would it be a more free country if that law was not in place?

From my cultural upbringing having regulation in place to steer society does not stand at odds with freedom. And that's also by my cultural background not "convoluted".

Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by kmlx on Thursday October 10, 2019 @05:18AM (#21212442)
when the fear of guns stifles your movement, then yes, a lack of guns means more freedom. i'm writing this after having lived in the murder capital of the US and now moved to the UK. personal safety (and thus freedom) in Europe is at another level compared to the US. which makes sense. the US is at Zambia and Sudan levels of murders per capita. truly shameful.
Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by refurb on Thursday October 10, 2019 @08:51AM (#21213814)
If you look at all violent crimes in the US versus UK, they aren’t all that different.
Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by aquaticsunset on Thursday October 10, 2019 @08:31AM (#21213661)
This is where it gets a little “grey area.” If my freedom to have a gun impacts many, many other freedoms of the people around me, is society more free or less?

If my freedom to text and drive impacts the right to life and freedom of those around me, it’s imperative to restrict that one freedom so the freedom of the society remains.

Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by refurb on Thursday October 10, 2019 @08:45AM (#21213763)
“As a person from China, the fact the gov’t is putting Muslims in camps means more freedom for me from terrorism.”

That’s not freedom.

Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by tripzilch on Friday October 11, 2019 @04:48AM (#21222603)
I want freedom from straw men.
Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by alexis_fr on Thursday October 10, 2019 @04:45AM (#21212264)
You can’t leave Europe, despite your voters voting twice for it, making the Brexit party the #1, and yet your establishment understood “Leave” as “Stay” and refuses to hold a general election because they know they are illegitimate and hold on to their power?
Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by the_mitsuhiko on Thursday October 10, 2019 @04:58AM (#21212338)
First of all is the EU not Europe, secondly the UK can leave it. They just are not capable of politically surviving the consequences of leaving it. Countries in the EU can leave the EU a right that states in the US currently do not have about leaving the USA if they so desired.
Re:Pair Locking Your iPhone by palunon on Thursday October 10, 2019 @11:58AM (#21216007)
Well, the leave process is currently underway since a little over three years, and is probably reaching its conclusion in a few days.

On the US side, remember what happened when some states left the Union ?