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Re:Americans Are Using Less Steel, Paper, Fertilizer, and En... by TeMPOraL on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @05:26PM (#21208282)
I stand with you here. I recognized something like this myself - I phrase it as "I want to live in a world of cooperation, of win-win deals", but there are still people who prefer to exploit others, play "win-lose" games.

That's why I despise the advertising industry so much. They're all playing win-lose games with society, and the collateral damage slowly eats at the base of what keeps our societies together.

Re:Americans Are Using Less Steel, Paper, Fertilizer, and En... by anon1m0us on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @05:50PM (#21208537)
Yes! I remember someone asked me one time, "What do you want?"

I said, "I want to create synergistic relationships with other people."

I despise advertising too, but I realized I have to advertise so people know about my products. There are people who want them. Advertising helps them find my products that solve their problems.

And then I realized the advertising platforms like adwords and such were also deceptive. So I stopped advertising.

It doesn't help me though or the people who I could help if they knew.

Re:Americans Are Using Less Steel, Paper, Fertilizer, and En... by TeMPOraL on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @05:57PM (#21208595)
Like almost all big problems of our times, this too is a coordination problem.

When everyone around you shouts through a megaphone, you need a megaphone too just so that the person next to you can hear you. If someone took all megaphones from everyone at the same time, people would have the ability to finally have a conversation.

Advertising currently is this. It's oversaturating our attention. Of course, for a market to function, you need a way for people to know what's available to buy. If done honestly, it's totally fine, and I don't have anything against it. My beef is with the existing industry, with all the things I've mentioned here[0]. I want someone to take their megaphones away, so that we could talk to each other like human beings.

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[0] - http://jacek.zlydach.pl/blog/2019-07-31-ads-as-cancer.html

Re:Americans Are Using Less Steel, Paper, Fertilizer, and En... by ramphastidae on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @07:00PM (#21209125)