Russia’s Retro Lenin Museum Still Runs on Decades-Old Apple II Computers

Re:Russia’s Retro Lenin Museum Still Runs on Decades-Old App... by exhilaration on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @01:48PM (#21205794)

Al Eisenstat, who accompanied [Steve] Jobs, recalled him talking about creating AI simulations of Soviet revolutionaries: “The one thing we can’t do is to ask them a question and get their current thinking. Ahh, but in the future you are going to have artificial intelligence and you’ll be able to ask Mr. Lenin a question or Mr. Trotsky a question.”

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Re:Russia’s Retro Lenin Museum Still Runs on Decades-Old App... by trhway on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @02:31PM (#21206343)

>in the future you are going to have artificial intelligence and you’ll be able to ask Mr. Lenin a question or Mr. Trotsky a question.

giving the amount of Lenin's writings https://www.cmlt.ru/getUserImage?id=17690783

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin_bibliography#Co... :

"His Collected Works comprise 54 volumes, each of about 650 pages, translated into English in 45 volumes "

i wonder what future we can already preview by training GPT-2 on it. Add to that a voice model built using his voice recordings and upload the combined model as a "Talk to/Ask Lenin" skill to Alexa... Caused the memory to dig out that USSR propaganda slogan - "Lenin is more alive than anyone living" (i kid you not - "Lenin zhivee vseh zhivyh").

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Re:Russia’s Retro Lenin Museum Still Runs on Decades-Old App... by mikdman on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @03:03PM (#21206687)

the translation doesn’t seem correct to me. it would be more along the lines “if lenin is alive then everyone is alive”

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Re:Russia’s Retro Lenin Museum Still Runs on Decades-Old App... by trhway on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @03:13PM (#21206798)

No. http://marshallcenter.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/ref/collection/...

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Re:Russia’s Retro Lenin Museum Still Runs on Decades-Old App... by archi42 on Thursday October 10, 2019 @03:45AM (#21211929)

I don't speak Russian, but assuming GP does: Maybe it's a pun? Both meanings convey propaganda about him.

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Re:Russia’s Retro Lenin Museum Still Runs on Decades-Old App... by trhway on Sunday October 13, 2019 @06:43PM (#21243735)

>Maybe it's a pun?

In the years when it was produced the pun here would have resulted in "10 years in GULAG without right for communication with outside world". Not even speaking about intentional pun, to get how fearful people felt about making just accidental mistake - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_(1975_film) for example has a scene showing it pretty well.

I'm surprised by GP's translation and insistence. The translation is just simply incorrect language-wise. Just ask any Russian. While so totally incorrect the translation though has very deep Zen like qualities to it which would sound pretty profound in some other contexts and about some other persons. USSR and Lenin is just very far from Zen :).

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Re:Russia’s Retro Lenin Museum Still Runs on Decades-Old App... by mikdman on Saturday October 12, 2019 @11:00AM (#21233653)

your phonetic russian quote is not the same as what’s written on the poster.

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Re:Russia’s Retro Lenin Museum Still Runs on Decades-Old App... by trhway on Sunday October 13, 2019 @06:30PM (#21243623)

sorry you're wrong. The poster has "Lenin i teper zhivee vseh zhivyh". I skipped the "i teper" which isnt really necessary there - it translates as "today, these days, present time, this moment, ..."

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Re:Russia’s Retro Lenin Museum Still Runs on Decades-Old App... by orthecreedence on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @04:14PM (#21207483)

"You look for the person who will benefit, and uh, uh you know, uh you know you’ll uh, uh well...you know what I'm trying to say."

- AI Lenin

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