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Re:Decades of diesel use in Europe have created a public hea... by JoeAltmaier on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @09:45AM (#21203120)
Not really the same as the sun and the wind. We can certainly use other fuels; its simply a choice.
Re:Decades of diesel use in Europe have created a public hea... by ThomPete on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @09:58AM (#21203283)
Of course it's the same

Things can have both positive and negative properties. Diesel is no exception and has certainly saved more people than it killed.

Re:Decades of diesel use in Europe have created a public hea... by JoeAltmaier on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @10:53AM (#21203804)
Its facetious to compare forces of nature that we have to live with, to a simple choice of fuels that we don't.

Diesel is ... cheap that's about it. Everything else about it, is a negative.

Re:Decades of diesel use in Europe have created a public hea... by ThomPete on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @11:13AM (#21203982)
If you actually read what I wrote you would know that's not what I did.

I already gave you just some of the positive effects of using Diesel luckily everyone can read for themselves.

Re:Decades of diesel use in Europe have created a public hea... by JoeAltmaier on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @11:32AM (#21204158)
Likewise, reading what I wrote would reveal, I don't regard Diesel as inevitable as the sun and the wind. That was a disingenuous comparison.

That's all on this subject.

Re:Decades of diesel use in Europe have created a public hea... by ThomPete on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @01:07PM (#21205256)
Nice strawman. I didn't claim it was. So yeah you kind of exposed everything about your intentions here. Thanks for that.
Re:Decades of diesel use in Europe have created a public hea... by JoeAltmaier on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @03:18PM (#21206857)
"Blaming diesel for a public health crisis is like blaming the sun for melanomas or the wind for wrecked ships."

Putting diesel in the category of 'sun' or 'wind' is pretty clear I think.

Re:Decades of diesel use in Europe have created a public hea... by ThomPete on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @03:54PM (#21207249)
Then you should think it through some more.

The point is that it's absurd to only look at the negatives. Just like you wouldn't only be judging wind or the sun on negatives you can't only look at the negatives only of diesel you have to look at the positives and THEN decide whether it's worth it.

Re:Decades of diesel use in Europe have created a public hea... by JoeAltmaier on Sunday October 13, 2019 @10:02AM (#21240379)
Perhaps others could attempt to be more clear, if they didn't mean what they actually wrote.