Ask HN: Bet the farm. Python or PHP?

Re:Ask HN: Bet the farm. Python or PHP? by jrockway on Sunday June 08, 2008 @03:59AM (#212019)

And given how strong the tools in Perl are for working with hashes and arrays (grep, map, join, splice/unsplice, shift/unshift, sort, etc.) it really is a pain point.

Not really:

  my $ref  = [qw/foo bar baz/];
  my $ref2 = [map { uc } @$ref]; # [qw/FOO BAR BAZ/]

References, if anything, are just slightly ugly. I could live without non-reference values, however. They're basically useless, but sometimes they make the program more concise.

I think everyone realizes this mistake, however, and Perl6 only has types that behave like references:

  my @foo = split '/', "foo/bar/baz";
  function(@foo, 'hello');

  sub function(@foo, $string){ ... }

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Re:Ask HN: Bet the farm. Python or PHP? by SwellJoe on Sunday June 08, 2008 @06:19AM (#212059)

My point was that it is an additional bit of friction that isn't present in Ruby or Python (though they also have their own bits of friction). Even though I've written a lot of code in my life, I've never been a full-time software developer, and so it's one of the tricky bits that drops out of my head during the breaks in between writing code. I'm interacting with code written by someone very comfortable with these idioms, and so they show up all over the place, and I never quite get them right the first time. I just think it's an area that makes Perl trickier than it ought to be...it's not a deal breaker (PHP's lack of first class functions, for example, now that's a deal breaker). I'm basically a raving Perl fan, but arrays only holding scalars is a nuisance.

And, as I mentioned, Perl 6 goes a long way to correcting pretty much everything I don't like about Perl 5.

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Re:Ask HN: Bet the farm. Python or PHP? by t0pj on Sunday June 08, 2008 @10:12AM (#212100)

PHP's lack of first class functions

Thanks for that lil' tidbit.

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Re:Ask HN: Bet the farm. Python or PHP? by ralph on Monday June 09, 2008 @06:06AM (#212671)

It's the

    @{$h{$k}}

syntax that's fugly. +1 for Python.

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